>Worse yet, I can't use >Firebug, which was one of my most used, but I expect that the >developers will come out with a new version. Apparently Firebug has been updated but has to be installed manually, it doesn't come through as an update. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/1843 There's also a hack that can be done to make some of the others work that had been updated to 3.0pre. It's documented here, in the comments: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/4111 I'm waiting on just two more to swing, and then I can try it again. Oh, and there is a plugin called "Oldbar" for those who don't want anything AWESOME. :) -- Ciao for now, bj mailto:bj at kickasswebdesign.com http://kickasswebdesign.com http://refreshdelval.org http://bitchslappin.net