[thelist] Higher Screen Resolutions

Barney Carroll barney.carroll at gmail.com
Fri May 21 07:27:34 CDT 2010


>
> How you go about intelligently
> interpreting that without split-testing 57 shades of blue is something that
> AFAICT is rarely discussed && has little in the way of consensus.


I seem to remember Google's erstwhile lead designer resigned the day he was
asked to justify this kind of decision based on user data.

Back on topic (and regardless if statistics), Bob, are your ideas wider than
1024 pixels? ;)

Regards,
Barney Carroll

barney.carroll at gmail.com
07594 506 381


On 21 May 2010 13:16, David <david at deadpansincerity.com> wrote:

> >> > I am misinterpreting your novella
>
> You are misquoting my friendly trolling. :)
>
> >> Gleaned this from a
> >> 'eyes from screen distance' Google just now if you're interested (common
> >> recommendations and practice unanimous AFAIK)
> >> http://www.office-ergo.com/setting.htm
>
> According to them 50 degrees below horizontal eye level is a reasonable
> placement for your monitor. I am correspondingly highly dubious of any
> other
> conclusions :)
>
> Especially the studies of monitor interaction conducted in 1975. Presumably
> they had an iMac in the control group.
>
> Also:
>
> "With the monitor off, look at your reflection in the screen. Now turn the
> monitor on and select a Windows-type background, (black letters on a white
> background). Notice that you cannot see your reflection as well."
> YMMV
>
> >> I was implicitly positing that we should not depend so much on usage
> survey
> >> statistics to govern fundamental principles in web design,
>
> This is the interesting thing about the thread - Great things about the web
> #347: You have access to data that you can feed back into your application
> in order to improve the experience. How you go about intelligently
> interpreting that without split-testing 57 shades of blue is something that
> AFAICT is rarely discussed && has little in the way of consensus.
>
> Love regards etc
>
> David Miller
> 0771 744 8361
> www.deadpansincerity.com
>
>
> On 21 May 2010 12:36, Barney Carroll <barney.carroll at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > David wrote:
> >
> > > I am misinterpreting your novella
> >
> >
> > To expound that far and still leave things unclear, my greatest sin :)
> >
> >
> > > you can't call _one_ thing a false dichotomy.
> >
> >
> > There is the crucial exception: dichotomies ;) I was referring to
> >
> >
> pixel-versus-em-as-a-method-of-achieving-meaningful-relative-sizes-in-web-layout-design,
> > an age-old web design dichotomy implicit in Felix's angle. I was stating
> my
> > preference for pixels as a necessary base unit for screen representation,
> > and explaining the lack of any real relationship between either, and any
> > conception of actual metric size outside of ppi conventions in screen
> > manufacture.
> >
> >
> > > Where are your data?
> >
> >
> > I was implicitly positing that we should not depend so much on usage
> survey
> > statistics to govern fundamental principles in web design, and stick to
> > conventional more readily available conventional wisdom and design sense
> > for
> > notions as basic as this. TBH I haven't examined any statistical data
> > sources to compound my observations of everyday HCI… Gleaned this from a
> > 'eyes from screen distance' Google just now if you're interested (common
> > recommendations and practice unanimous AFAIK)
> > http://www.office-ergo.com/setting.htm
> >
> > px vs em is the web designers version of editor wars.
> >
> > Pick one and make something great with it.
> >
> >
> > There are technical end-user ramifications, but generally I agree. Refer
> > back to lengthy treatise on false dichotomy of ostensibly meaningful
> > spatial
> > representation, and greater context of ideal size ;)
> >
> >
> > Regards,
> > Barney Carroll
> >
> > barney.carroll at gmail.com
> > 07594 506 381
> >
> >
> > On 21 May 2010 12:07, David <david at deadpansincerity.com> wrote:
> >
> > > >
> > > > I have personally stopped using ems for quite some time now,
> > > > ...snip...
> > > > In short I think they're a bit of a false dichotomy
> > > >
> > >
> > > Unless I am misinterpreting your novella, you can't call _one_ thing a
> > > false
> > > dichotomy. Especially in the context of explaining your preference for
> an
> > > alternative choice.
> > >
> > > their screen will be somewhere in the vicinity of 25 inches away from
> > their
> > > > eyes
> > >
> > > Where are your data?
> > >
> > > px vs em is the web designers version of editor wars.
> > > Pick one and make something great with it.
> > >
> > > Love regards etc
> > >
> > > David Miller
> > > 0771 744 8361
> > > www.deadpansincerity.com
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