btw, 2 meta notes 1) Having worked with an Indian team for 3 years, I love that we've all adopted the Indian English here (UK/US usage would be 'Estimates') 2) We are of course talking about estimating for Fixed *Price* contracts. Aren't we? (Happy to be wrong) Cheers Martin -- > Spammers: Send me email -> yumyum at easyweb.co.uk to train my filter