[thelist] Sender Reputation of thelist emails [was: Re: Domain issues]

Volkan Özçelik volkan.ozcelik at gmail.com
Mon Jan 6 02:14:44 UTC 2020

Following our age-old thelist convention and updating the subject to start
a new thread :)

Boy I missed those good old days!

> More likely that Gmail has issues with our reputation, rather than the
> good reputation our sending IP has in general.

The IP has good reputation, though email providers are getting stricter as
the time goes by.

Here are a few things that I guess is impacting gmail to mark the thelist
emails as spams.

- Although it has proper SPF records, the emails sent do not have a valid
DK/DKIM signature.
- The email is not encrypted (it has a red padlock with a cross in gmail,
which alarmingly gives an insecure/spammy feeling even if it’s not spam.

Here are a few other findings that I got after a quick scan:

- RBL: Sender listed at https://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [
listed in list.dnswl.org]
- Multiple indicators imply a widely-seen list manager

If it’s just my gmail marking thelist emails as spam, then I’m fine with
Like I said, I’m already forcefully filtering them into my inbox form the
spam folder; telling gmail never to mark them as spam.

I also do understand that our mailer maintainers (I don’t know how many of
you guys are out there, but you deserve full respect for keeping this thing
alive and kicking) … anyways, you guys might have other fish to fry.

I just wanted to point out my observations, so that you can add it you your
backlog or something.

May the source be with you,



More information about the thelist mailing list