I've been lurking for quite some time(sorry, i've been busy), but i've got a little something to share that some of you already know about. A few of you on this list know Joe Jenett. He's recently started the ageless project (http://jenett.org/ageless). I had the pleasure of working with Joe for 9 months until he was laid off (damn economy). If you haven't already, check out he ageless project and become involved if you are so inclined. http://jenett.org/ageless thanks -- jeremy http://www.webhack.com