[thechat] roll yr own blackout

[Norman Bunn]

Sorry, I can't buy that it is any administration's fault that we, the
consumers of the energy, do not do more to conserve.  If it is the right
thing to do, we should do it regardless of incentives.  Too often we are act
like victims when we are the problem.  We complain about the garbage on TV,
but still watch the programs and buy the sponsors products.  We moan the
drilling in wildlife areas, but buy SUVs that get lousy gas mileage.  We
turn up the heat instead of wearing sweaters.  I could go on and on, but you
get the idea.  I am not suggesting that we all become Luddites, but a little
self-control and sacrifice would go a long way towards curing many of our
ills.

As an aside, Instead of depending on the media to decipher the report, I
plan to read it (http://www.whitehouse.gov/energy/)

Norman

----- Original Message -----
From: Bruce Heerssen <bheerssen at visualbridge.tv>
To: <thechat at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Monday, May 21, 2001 3:18 AM
Subject: RE: [thechat] roll yr own blackout


> I heard a statistic (on NPR, so probably reliable) that claimed a very
> significant portion of California's enery is supplied by solar cells - can
> anyone shed further light on this? If this is true, George W. has a lot of
> 'splaining to do. I mean, why all the emphasis on oil and gas exploration
> while leaving more ecologically responsible technologies to wither and die
for
> lack of R&D? With significant production, photovoltaics actually become
cost
> effective. Wind farms are known to be able to provide significant amounts
of
> energy at reasonably low cost. Thermal and tidal systems also show some
> promise, as do fish-friendly hydroelectric projects.
>
> So why the almost complete devotion to Oil and Gas, with a nod to nuclear
and
> nothing else?
>
> It's a crime - a crime I tells ya!
>
> But to answer the post, no the current administration is not to blame for
the
> current energy woes. We have the last 10 (or more) administrations for
that.
> But the Bush presidency certainly does not seem to be shaking up the
status
> quo.
>
> -Bruce
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: thechat-admin at lists.evolt.org
> > [mailto:thechat-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Norman Bunn
> > Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2001 6:32 PM
> > To: thechat at lists.evolt.org
> > Subject: Re: [thechat] roll yr own blackout
> >
> >
> > Not so much in protest of President Bush's policies, but the fact that
we
> > have done very little as a nation since the 1970s to improve efficiency
or
> > conserve, I plan to support this effort.  This crunch did not come upon
us
> > in the last 100 days, so I don't believe this is a political issue as
much
> > as a lifestyle one.  I have always chosen to limit my use of consumables
and
> > invest in assets instead.  I choose smaller engines over larger ones,
ones
> > that use regular over premium; I refuse to own an SUV, because I don't
need
> > one.  I use storm windows, extra insulation, high efficiency HVAC,
setback
> > thermostats,etc. I open my windows  in the summer when it's cooler
outside
> > than in and vice versa in the winter.  This is just common sense, but
few
> > people exercise it so it is not all that common.  I am a conservative in
the
> > true sense of the word, respecting the past and learning from it so that
> > those after me will learn more.
> >
> > I don't believe we can blame the current administration for this.  We
can
> > only blame ourselves.  If we took conservation and recycling as
seriously as
> > we have taken smoking in the last decade or so, there would be much less
of
> > a problem.  As Pogo said, "We have met the enemy and he is us."
> >
> > Norman
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: Erika Meyer <emeyer at lclark.edu>
> > To: <thechat at lists.evolt.org>
> > Sent: Friday, May 18, 2001 7:28 PM
> > Subject: [thechat] roll yr own blackout
> >
> >
> > > >ROLL YOUR OWN BLACK OUT THE FIRST DAY OF SUMMER
> > > >
> > > >JUNE 21, 2001 THURS EVE,
> > > >
> > > >7-10pm, all US time zones
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >In protest of George W. Bush's energy policies and
> > > >lack of emphasis on efficiency, conservation and alternative fuels,
> > > >there will be a voluntary rolling blackout on the first day of
summer,
> > June
> > > >21 at 7pm - 10pm in any time zone in the USA (this will roll it
across
> > the
> > > >country).
> > > >
> > > >It's a simple protest and a symbolic act. Turn out
> > > >your lights from 7pm-10pmon June 21. Unplug whatever you can unplug
in
> > your
> > > >house.
> > > >Light a candle to the sungod, kiss and tell, make
> > > >love, tell ghost stories, do something instead of watching
television,
> > have
> > > >fun in the dark.
> > > >
> > > >Forward this email as widely as possible. Write to
> > > >your government representatives and environmental contacts. Let them
> > > >know we want global education, participation and funding in
> > > >conservation, efficiency and alternative fuel efforts -- and an end
> > > >to over exploitation and misuse of the earth's resources.
> > >
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