<snip> > and what makes you think there is a "god"? The incredibly intricate, beutiful, fragile, *intentional* nature of nature...The sheer glory of the design of nature suggests a designer, and one with *SKILLZ*, considering how amazing it all is. In fact, in one of the letters of the Apostle Paul, he writes about man's awareness of God saying: 'Ever since the creation of the world his invisible nature, namely, his eternal power and deity, has been clearly perceived in the things that have been made.' Romans 1:20 maybe you need to spend more time outside... </snip> Actually, back in the 1800's (and possibly earlier) it was pretty common to ask naturalists for their 'insight into the workings of God' because of their close work with nature. Actually this was a pretty common historic theme in science - study science = study God ... at least *quite* a few years ago. One of my absolute favorite quotes comes from a time when then world-renown naturalist J B S Haldane was asked what insight his life's work had shown him into the mind of God. His showstopping response? "God must have had an inordinate fondness for beetles." Gotta Love That!! RonL.