Here, here!! Author!! Author!! Thanks, Ron White -----Original Message----- From: thechat-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thechat-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Bruce Heerssen Sent: Thursday, May 24, 2001 3:08 PM To: thechat at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thechat] Mythology was comics Tamara wrote: > Faith is a comfort. God is comforting. Horrible things happen because we > are human and not in control of our environment at all times. God will > provide. All we can do is accept our humanity and try to do better > tomorrow, which, BTW arrived about 30 minutes ago -- g'nite. > This is what bothers me about western religions. When you take into account that people are always looking to be comfortable, and the fact that people are very good at justifying (sp?) pretty much whatever they want, then how do I know that idea of God, and the mythology surrounding Jesus, were not wholly invented by the ancients and supported by their descendants? It seems plausible that the judeo religions (and other deist religions) were invented to pacify (and thereby control - but I digress) a populace that naturally seeks comfort and meaning in life. In the absence of a more plausible premise, this is what I must believe. The reality of what organised western religions have done with their power in the past, and still continue to do today, only strengthens my resolve. What does all this mean to me? It means that: no, there is most likely no higher meaning in life, no experience after death. Heaven and Hell are both right here on earth, right now. One might argue that this credo would lead to apathy, or perhaps selfishness and aggression, but the opposite is, in fact, the case. Only when individuals maintain their dignity, compassion, and sense of self-worth in the face of uncertainty can humanity as a whole progress to a higher standard of living for everyone, and ensure that standard for years to come. Religion does not assure me that humanity will continue. In fact, western religions claim that there will be an end to life on earth. It is that position, IMO, that is destroying the earth. If the majority of people believe in an armaggendon, that the earth was doomed from the start, what hope for the future can I have? And what will stop those people from destroying the planet? They believe that the condition of the planet does not, in the end, count for anything. Alas, mass enlightenment is a fleeting goal. I for one, do not wish my posterity to be reviled by my descendants. Knowing that that would be the case would certainly be Hell for me. Respectfully, Bruce P.S. - This will most likely be my only contribution to this thread. In general, I try to stay away from public discussions of religion because of their contentious nature, but Tamara's comment did strike a chord with me that I thought I'd share.