been flicking through this comic strip done by a colleague's ex-student. it's kinda similar to userfriendly, but for designers. quite amusing i think: http://homepages.picknowl.com.au/jhubbard/suframes.htm (use the dropdown near the top left to start from the beginning of the strip) isaac -------------------------------------------------------------- triple zero digital | upstairs at 200 the parade, norwood 5067 (08)83320545 | www.triplezero.com.au | isaac at triplezero.com.au