[thechat] Re: thechat digest, Vol 1 #166 - 13 msgs

[irina kruk]

Thank you Joe Crawford. 

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/Archive/Article/0,4273,4261623,00.html
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> It is something worse than idle to propose the very
> trade-offs that may
> have been lodged somewhere in the closed-off minds
> of the
> mass-murderers. The people of Gaza live under curfew
> and humiliation and
> expropriation. This is notorious. Very well: does
> anyone suppose that an
> Israeli withdrawal from Gaza would have forestalled
> the slaughter in
> Manhattan? It would take a moral cretin to suggest
> anything of the sort;
> the cadres of the new jihad make it very apparent
> that their quarrel is
> with Judaism and secularism on principle, not with
> (or not just with)
> Zionism. They regard the Saudi regime not as the
> extreme authoritarian
> theocracy that it is, but as something too soft and
> lenient. The Taliban
> forces viciously persecute the Shi'a minority in
> Afghanistan. The Muslim
> fanatics in Indonesia try to extirpate the infidel
> minorities there;
> civil society in Algeria is barely breathing after
> the fundamentalist
> assault. Now is as good a time as ever to revisit
> the history of the
> Crusades, or the sorry history of partition and
> Kashmir, or the woes of
> the Chechens and Kosovars. 
> 
> But the bombers of Manhattan represent fascism with
> an Islamic face, and
> there's no point in any euphemism about it. What
> they abominate about
> "the west", to put it in a phrase, is not what
> western liberals don't
> like and can't defend about their own system, but
> what they do like
> about it and must defend: its emancipated women, its
> scientific inquiry,
> its separation of religion from the state. Loose
> talk about chickens
> coming home to roost is the moral equivalent of the
> hateful garbage
> emitted by Falwell and Robertson, and exhibits about
> the same
> intellectual content. Indiscriminate murder is not a
> judgment, even
> obliquely, on the victims or their way of life, or
> ours. Any observant
> follower of the prophet Mohammed could have been on
> one of those planes,
> or in one of those buildings - yes, even in the
> Pentagon. 


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