[thechat] FW: Protesters

[iris]

<not a flame and not a personal attack on anyone, just
real fear speaking>

i know you meant this as a joke but doesn't anybody
see the similarities to historic events here?  this is
exactly what's happening already.  people who dare to
speak out against war are being threatened and
silenced...

this whole thing has me extremely worried.  months
after the wall came down in berlin i left germany
because the newly rising patriotism and nationalism
made me really uncomfortable, now i wish i wasn't
living in britain, brothers with america, which is
displaying a scary amount of jingoism at the moment...

i've been trying to keep my mouth shut so far, because
i really think there's little i can do to change
people's minds until the adrenalin flood has subsided.
 but now there's war and that's unlikely to happen. 
as a person who believes in civil liberties and free
speech and as a german who has gone through years of
de-nazification in school and who's been watching the
growing police state measures in britain, i am dead
scared right now.

can't anybody see that history is repeating itself?
isn't anybody worried that we aren't scared of war at
all?  or do you really have to experience it on your
own soil in recent history to be afraid of it.  people
as individuals are sane, people as masses are
extremely dangerous.  


iris



--- Scott Dexter <sgd at ti3.com> wrote:
> I chuckled, so I offer this as tongue-in-cheek
> 
> >  -----Original Message-----
> > 
> > Lately there have been some dissidents protesting
> our retaliation for
> the September 11th terrorist attack on the United
> States. These people
> have been marching peacefully protesting our
> government's actions. If
> you meet one of these people you should pursue the
> following course of
> action.
> > 
> > 1).   Approach them politely.
> > 
> > 2).   Ask them what they are protesting. You
> already know but they
> need to say it aloud.
> > 
> > 3).   Ask them why they are protesting. They will
> say that we should
> turn the other cheek and try to understand the
> reasoning behind the
> attack.
> > 
> > 4).   Ask them to clarify:   they will tell you
> that violence begets
> more violence.
> > 
> > 5).   Haul off and hit the protester square in the
> face.
> > 
> > 6).  When he gets up he will be pretty angry and
> may want to fight
> back.
> > 
> > 7).  Placate him by telling him, violence begets
> more violence.  Give
> him a few minutes to calm down as you assure him
> that striking back is
> useless and unnecessary.
> > 
> > 8).  When he nods his understanding, hit him
> again.  This time even
> harder, followed by a swift kick to the balls.
> > 
> > 9).  Again he may be angry and again you must tell
> him violence begets
> more violence.
> > 
> > 10).   Repeat steps 5 through 9 until he
> understands the virtue in
> retaliation.
> > 




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