dan, the guy pinging members.evolt.org and then trying to display http://63.237.54.244/djc/stdio was me i was reading your blog this aft and suddenly started getting bad gateway errors funny, i can get www.evolt.org and lists.evolt.org but nothing under members.evolt.org any more... your host acting up again? something else? i'd thought http://63.237.54.244/djc/stdio would do it, but this says page not found you're an ip wizard, and i'm not rudelicious