[thechat] Solve This Political Triangle

Syed Zeeshan Haider szh at hotpop.com
Fri Jun 21 00:31:00 CDT 2002

Hi Ben,
No Offence, but Pakistan has been a long-time buyer of USA weapons
specially F-16's but USA has never given Pakistan that support of which
Pakistan had a right. USA received money for 16 F-16's and refused to
deliver the fighter planes. After a lengthy and painstaking negotiation,
USA gave back the money in the form of wheat. A big part of money had
already been deducted as Service Charges by USA officials. In addition,
I guess, Pakistani market is bigger than that of Israel.
There are some hidden interests of USA in Israel, about which even
Americans don't know. Only a handful of F-16 fighter planes cannot
matter. Quality fighter planes like F-16 can easily be sold to any
country in the world, if Israel doesn't purchase them.
Any Israelis or Israeli supporters in this list! Don't mind my comments.
It's my curiosity about international politics which tends me to start
such debates.
Thank you,
Syed Zeeshan Haider.

----- Original Message -----
Date: Mon, 17 Jun 2002 15:51:59 -0500
To: thechat at lists.evolt.org
From: Ben Dyer <ben_dyer at imaginuity.com>
Subject: Re: [thechat] Solve This Political Triangle
Reply-To: thechat at lists.evolt.org

On 01:37 PM 6/17/2002, Syed Zeeshan Haider said to me:
>What kind of interests does USA seek from Israel and Arabs?

As far as I can tell, economic on both sides.

We like selling things to Israel and they are more than happy to buy our
things: wheat, computers, F-16s, etc. (Israel imports more from the U.S.
than anyone else).  Israel also benefits *heavily* from American (and
European and Brazilian and Japanese) tourism, so no peace and stability
means little to no tourists, which affects many, many people (from the
Tourism Minister to the people begging for money at tourist sites).

As for the Arabic nations, one word: oil.  From a strictly economic
standpoint, there is nothing else.  The U.S. wants a happy, stable Saudi
Arabia, Kuwait, Turkey, Jordan, Oman, Yemen, U.A.E., Bahrain, etc., etc.
(and, technically, Libya, Iraq and Iran, but we all know how those three
turned out...) so that we can buy their oil.

In addition, there is domestic political desire to please both
Jewish-American and Arab-American groups which are reasonably-sized
blocks in this country.

Anyways, it's typical American political behavior: play the whole field
make the most money.


Ben Dyer, Senior Internet Developer, Imaginuity Interactive

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