Or perhaps the proverbial... Rock 27 300 000 results and a Hard Place 4 950 000 results --Ben At 01:56 PM 10/2/2002, you wrote: >I thought the line was, "immovable object vs an irresistible force" > >which give us: > >immovable object >43 700 results > >versus > >irresistible force >133 000 results