[thechat] sharks (was: rationality)

seb potter seb at members.evolt.org
Tue Jan 7 06:08:01 CST 2003


> >
> > An excellent movie.  Everyone thought this would be the movie that
> > catapulted anime into mainstream...then they thought Spirited
> > Away...maybe the Cowboy Bebop movie in April??
>
> nope, Akira did it, Ghost in the Shell helped it... as far as i'm
> concerned, that's about as mainstream as it's gonna get... i remember
> people making that same comment when Gainax released Honneamise, and
> that didn't happen... there are others that stand a better chance...

Interesting position. I'd say that it was the more cartoon-style (in the
western sense) anime of the 1980s that brought it into mainstream
attention. Certainly, almost everyone I know remembers things like
Battle of the Planets (G-Force!) with a great fondness that translates
into an appreciation of the form, if not the substance.

Years ago, I ran my uni's sci-fi society. (Reading, UK) When I managed
to get a copy of Ghost in the Shell long before it was due in the UK, we
had to move into a bigger room for the viewing, and then ran it for a
couple of nights in the Student Union bar. Sci-fi soc had only about 80
members, but we easily had over a thousand people trying to get to see
the film.

> > >and Metropolis (the Rintaro/Katsuhiro Otomo anime adaptation of
> > >Osamu Tezuka's manga adaptation of Fritz Lang's cinema classic!)
> >
> > An okay movie.  Looks beautiful to be sure, but something was
> > missing...alas, probably Osamu Tezuka himself...
>
> it was gorgeous, despite the abundance of way too cartoony
> characters... the plot, though, was a little stretched for me...

Really? I thought it was incredible, though it did feel a little empty
at the end. It has been a while since I saw Lang's original though...

> > >delivered this morning, so my anime purchase meter is kinda depleted
> > >right now :(
> >
> > I completely understand.  I'm about to be bankrupt with new preorders:
> > Noir, .hack//SIGN, RahXephon and Mahoromatic all being released R1 in
> > Q1...Noir on preorder, .hack is next...plus keeping up with Kare Kano,
> > GTO, Excel Saga...
>
> wow, apparently i'm way too old school...
>
> doesn't anybody lament the end of great series like Dirty Pair,
> Bubblegum Crisis/Crash, Lupin, Project A-ko, etc?

Hell yeah. Of course, it kinda helps that I have really easy access to
them whenever I want.

> i'm really not so into the mixed CG and hand anime...

Really?

"it was gorgeous, despite the abundance of way too cartoony
characters..."

If you're not convinced about mixing CG and cell, get hold of "Blood,
the last Vampire". Ignore the lack of any kind of plot,
characterisation, or obvious ending, and just drool at the animation.
There's more CG in there than is evident at first, and the mix is
gorgeous.

- seb


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