[thechat] Fish do feel pain
Erika Meyer
emeyer at lclark.edu
Tue May 6 13:26:33 CDT 2003
Mike M responded to my rantings:
>>When you remove the spiritual from everything, what do you replace it
>>with? The myth of objectivity.
>
>It's not a myth - some things can be proven within certain criteria,
>others can't.
There is the proving things within certain criteria. there is still
the choosing of the criteria which is not an objective process.
I mean, not in any kind of absolute way... and if it isn't absolute,
how can it really be objective?
though in practice I agree. Show me a scientific test (and not just
the summarized results thank you I want to see the sample and control
etc...) and that is more convincing than vague claims, of course...
>>Maybe we should argue about when a fetus become a human, maybe we should
>>argue about where life begins and ends... why doesn't science tell us the
>>ANSWER?? WHY WHY WHY????
>
>I don't think those are the kinds of questions that one should ask of
>science.
Where life begins and ends? Then biology is not a science. or?
E
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