Martin Burns asked: >>the music shop I worked in while at school had a fines system in place >>Anyone want to suggest up to date alternatives? Hi Martin, 'Anything Ron plays' is probably too generic, sooooo here are a few suggestions: (1) The intro to "Basket Case" by Green Day. I think it's pretty much a given that this has to be on the list. (2) The snippet from EJ's "Cliffs of Dover" where (IIRC) you hold down the high e string at the 15th fret and alternate picking that with 'sweeping' back and forth across the 19th and 17th frets. That has *got* to be driving music shop folks nuts by now. (3) Hmmm ... I'm not 100% sure, but I'll bet there is a portion of Metallica's "Enter Sandman" that probably qualifies. RonL. Annoying music shop workers for <mumblety-mumble-mumble /> years!