Mr. Joel D Canfield of Lasbirdflu, Califlappinfornia writes in to chortle: >>ah; excellent. hope ya like chicken, cap'n ronl *scoff*scoff* <snootily> Fortuitously enough ... I have just completed a _major_ rebuild / restoration of my gas grill! Last Saturday, actually. [While no credit cards were seriously injured in said restoration one was slightly singed.] </snootily> (The grill was in embarrasingly bad shape, I must admit ... In fact, one might even say it was ... a dark and stormy grill! Heh. ;-P I won't. But one might be tempted to say such a thing.) All is well now, however. I have discarded the old lava rocks, tossed the old kitty litter, and replaced the badly rusted (a dinner plate sized hole certainly counts as 'badly rusted'!) and self destructing cast iron lava rock brackets with new stainless steel flame tamers. I've even picked up a set of stainless steel burners to have at the ready when the current cast iron set wears out. All I need now is a case o 'Shiner and a couple of these: http://www.bbqgalore.com/accessories/racks_baskets_holders/261156 Bring on dem beer butt boids! A Feisty RonL.