The wikipedia-l archives! http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/ Pretty fascinating, especially if you dig back toward the beginning! There are posts to the list that are almost identical to posts I've seen to the forum. Apparently EVERYONE has problems with cafepress. http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2008-October/030793.html Then the flame wars start... Sanger desperately seeking some type of authority to make it stop... http://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2002-December/thread.html systems of moderation are discussed, etc etc ad nauseum. Take evolt.org of the same era (2002), and add a whole bunch of extra nationalism in... Fun fact: it appears that "Dungeons & Dragons" was one of the first articles on Wikipedia. Erika