[Theforum] Re: what's this list for? (was: Charter Gaps)

Warden, Matt mwarden at mattwarden.com
Tue Oct 23 18:58:30 CDT 2001

rudy wrote:
>my understanding of what this list is for is to get consensus from the
>general evolt membership 
>i don't think a critique of the way the board is currently structured or
>the wording of the bylaws is where we should start off

You mean get concensus on what we already have? That wasn't my
understanding at all.

"we could, of course, create a new, public list and get everyone's
feedback, instead of just trotting out the final product for approval"

IOW, we use this list as a discussion of what we should do rather than an
approval of what we've already done (of course, if they're the same

So, taking a step back might not be productive, but I think it's a good
idea. IMO, the members should have been involved in this since the
beginning. But, also IMO, I don't think we can expect top-notch results
when we refuse to let non-admins get a peek at "that side" of evolt (by
opening up the admin archives or allowing them to handle article editing
and approval/denial, etc.). Like I said to Michele, it'd be like you
handing me a pen&paper the first day I came on to admin and saying "draft
evolt's future". Without letting people get a feel for how shit works
currently, I don't think you can expect that what comes out of here 

a. will be an easy transition, or
b. will come from non-admins

IOW, either non-admins will sit back because admins keep saying "that's
not how we do things" and it will really be a product of admins, or, if
the non-admins do put a lot of work into this (and I hope that happens),
then chances are that it will be quite a departure from how things work
ATM. And I fear that may result in a lack of (forgive me) "buy-in".

So, since there seems to be quite a bit of confusion about what exactly
this list is for and what its objectives are, maybe adrian should clear
that up (because I probably don't have the full picture either).



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