[Theforum] Inviting other people

spinhead evolt at spinhead.com
Mon Nov 19 13:36:39 CST 2001

I think we have to take the chance. Unless we start having folks meet a
minimum height requirement to subscribe, we take this chance with every
single new subscriber. Control exists already (peer pressure, admin
pressure, unsub.) More subscribers = more effort to control, but we can do

I originally didn't make the MJ --> evolt move because one of the worst
perpetrators of this made it clear they WERE moving. They didn't clean up
their act, and aren't around any more. Once in three years. I think we can
manage the quality as long as we're constantly aware of your very valid
concern, amanda. I also think we have to preach the fact that we feel this
way. Had I realized that the ex-lister wasn't going to be tolerated, I
woulda moved to evolt on day one and been a lot happier.


----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Erickson" <amanda at gawow.com>
To: <theforum at lists.evolt.org>
Sent: Monday, November 19, 2001 11:17 AM
Subject: RE: [Theforum] Inviting other people

> > Part 1)
> > Ten crap articles each day: This is simple. There are admin
> > gods who go
> > through the articles and evaluate their merit. This should
> > eliminate total
> > crud, and get articles up to at least an "average" level.
> > Could one of the admins please let us know how many (absolute or
> > percentage) article submissions you've rejected in the past?
> My example was hypothetical as we have always evaluated articles before
> they go live. What I was speaking to was the reputation hit that we
> might take. I'm just comparing quality and quantity and what happens
> when quality suffers.
> > Part 2)
> > I'm not sure what "ranting newbies" do (since I've never
> > witnessed it on
> > thelist, and never was subscribed to MJ), but is that they post OT
> > comments? If so, a gentle reminder (unlike the dictatorial
> > ways of, cough,
> > another list) seems to have worked well for us in the past,
> > has it not?
> >
> > Is it that they ask too many "newbie" questions? That's not a
> > bad thing and
> Newbies are, by my definition, not merely people who are new or young or
> inexperienced but also tend to take and take and take without giving, to
> rant at the drop of a hat and to take great offense when called out for
> it. What they do to a community is to bring down the level of
> discussion, create chaos where there was none and drive away good
> members. They create an atmosphere for regular arguments that go
> something like this:
> Newbie: I am not being unreasonable!
> Old Curmudgeon: Yes you are because of x, y, and z.
> List Mod: Can we take this offlist, this isn't appropriate.
> Middlebie: I really think it is appropriate, and I think Newbie
> is being tortured and blah, blah, blah.
> Newbie: Yeah!
> Wash, rinse, repeat.
> I'm glad that these instances are very few and far between on thelist. I
> want it to stay that way and I'm sure others do, too.
> All of this is just my own opinion on treading carefully into promoting
> thelist. We just need to think about the angles and evaluate the
> cost/benefit if we can.
> - amanda
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