another the latest edition of I-Design mentions Craig Saila's "Tables or CSS" article -- http://list.adventive.com/SCRIPTS/WA.EXE?A2=ind0203&L=i-design&D=1&T=0&H=1& O=D&F=&S=&P=290 note: moderator Veronica Yuill is an evolt subscriber, as is her predecessor, Shirley Kaiser rudy