[theforum] evolt.org Drupal proof-of-concept. First draft

Elfur Logadóttir elfur at elfur.is
Tue Nov 16 13:46:27 CST 2004

.:| From: Jeff Howden
.:| > have you responded at all so far as to offering to hand
.:| > over a proper copy of the database? Several requests have
.:| > already been made, one of them from myself last week.
.:| I have received exactly one request, that being from Dave 
.:| Kaufman.  I've not
.:| received any request from anyone else, yourself included.

Here's mine. Replying to your mail - one would expect you to read that ...
Especially since you read and replied to someone else's reply on that

.:| > So consider this a formal request: please hand over a
.:| > dump of the database so we can work on migrating the
.:| > data properly to it's new home.
.:| After we've approached this project from the proper angle, 
.:| then we can talk
.:| about a data dump.  Until then, requests are moot.

Why? Aren't those requests very on topic - because only with the data to
evaluate can an accurate migration happen. It's best to hand over a copy, to
make sure that all testing is done in ample time.

.:| > Is *anyone* rebuilding from scratch??? Isn't exactly the
.:| > opposite happening, importing to a OSS CMS system, based
.:| > on publically donated modules, maintained by thousands of
.:| > programmers allover the world? ...
.:| Using *anything*, prebuilt or not, that is not from the 
.:| original codebase is
.:| rebuilding.  That includes hacking together something made up of "
.:| publically (sic) donated modules, maintained by thousands 
.:| of programmers
.:| allover the world".

Hey, don't you (sic) me! :)
But seriously, it is a word :)

And no, i don't agree with your definition of rebuilding from scratch. 
And certainly is noone hacking anything together. Study the composition of
drupal and you learn that no hacking is needed, because it's that flexible
of a system. A demo drupal db is already set for you at

.:| > Well, it would be soooo much easier if you provided with a
.:| > proper data dump or access to a copy of all the data
.:| > currently on weo (note i said copy, not access to the real
.:| > thing, so don't reply with that argument, thank you).
.:| See note above about getting ducks in a row first.

I disagree and the rest of theforum does as well (interim tally says 11-1
for drupalizing).

So if the tally of the drupalizing vote will be for drupalizing, they are
also voting for handing over a copy of the weo data by noon Monday. And that
my friend is then out of your hands, you would be obliged to react to that

May I finally remind you that we are paying you for hosting, you have
already received $400 for hosting until the end of January next. Denial of
delivery of data is not an option for you at this time.
(says the one who will soon not be able to use the IANAL abbreviation)

*the 'trying to be nice' one*

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