[theforum] Vote: Launching the site already

Jeff Howden jeff at jeffhowden.com
Thu Aug 11 17:33:46 CDT 2005


> From: Martin Burns
> We now only have 2 outstanding showstoppers:

Actually, there are way more than just 2, but those are the only ones *you*
admit are showstoppers.  I personally quit logging issues when I saw it was
going nowhere.

> 1) Historical URL redirection:
> http://islands.easyweb.co.uk:8080/evolt_bugs/bugs/102/pcng_issue_view
> 2) Site Speed:
> http://islands.easyweb.co.uk:8080/evolt_bugs/bugs/4/pcng_issue_view
> which will be resolved by turning on caching shortly before launch.
> I was worried about Jeff's report about IE crashes:
> http://islands.easyweb.co.uk:8080/evolt_bugs/bugs/106
> and on analysis, discovered it is entirely down to
> crappy HTML in some of the comments. I've fixed it on
> the quoted article. If any content person spots it
> happening anywhere else, they should probably fix 
> those too - it's a quick and easy thing. Incidentally,
> the new site's content filtering/validation will
> prevent future occurences.

"Incidentally" the filtering/validation causes other problems with the
markup that is unresolvable in some articles without godmin privileges.

> (Yes, there are other issues that make the site other
> than perfect, and they will be done as and when
> developer time becomes available to do them. [...]

I've never once been in a position where I've been able to give a client
that sort of closing on a project.  Moreover, I've yet to work on a project
where the "replacement" was nothing more than a half-baked proof-of-concept
of the original, missing numerous aspects of the core functionality, the
whole while excusing the shortcomings away because they'd require
adjustments to the core of an inferior, built for everying/suitable for
nothing, non-"bespoke" system.

> If one causes you particular pain, volunteering to
> analyse and fix it would be very much the fastest way
> to resolution)

The same statement has been made for the past 3 years or so concerning the
existing site, yet no one steps forward.  It will be interesting to see if
anything changes (doubtful).

> Therefore, I'd like to formally propose launching the
> site as per Ron's suggestion:
> http://lists.evolt.org/theforumarchive/Week-of-Mon-20050725/005717.html
> subject to the sysadmin team implementing the URL
> schema redirection. In other words, let's make the
> decision now, and as soon as that's done, we'll turn
> on the caching and repoint www.evolt.org.
> Deadline for responses:
> Noon EST/17:00 UK time

The hosting contract is terminated as of 23:59:59 August 31, 2005.  The site
will be shut off regardless of whether or not the "replacement" is ready.
You will either miss the deadline and end up without a site, miss the
deadline and implement a completely broken site, or make the deadline and
implement a sub-standard site.

Personally, I'm beyond tired of the charades, posturing, minimizing, and
exaggerating per your mood, objective, and/or agenda.  So, as it seems I'm
no longer needed, I'll take that as my cue to excuse myself from this
debacle.  I wash my hands of it all.

As of the departure of this email, I'm officially unsubscribed from

Flames, retorts, GBonics'ed quips, well-wishing, etc. should be offlist.


 [>] Jeff Howden
     jeff at jeffhowden.com

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