Johannes Reichardt offered a neat design and asked: >>Btw: Anybody in here? What kind of list is that? The silencio Forum? :) Hi Johannes, 'theforum' is actually more of an "internal working committee" kind of list, (I'm sure there are descriptions of the various lists on the evolt signup page), so it tends to be kinda quiet unless there is something going on that needs a decision or a vote. 'thelist' is the more workaday list for getting input on neat designs like the one you offered, or for picking folks brains about technical issues or approaches you may be interested in. 'thechat' is for shooting the breeze, goofing off, or connecting with the rest of the folks more as a friend than a colleague. HTH, RonL.