[theforum] list choking

Dean Mah dean.mah at gmail.com
Tue Dec 12 09:21:19 CST 2006

On 12/12/06, Matt Warden <mwarden at gmail.com> wrote:
> Thelist seems to be choking again. Or, at least, the archive generation is.
> (I can really only see this when I send a message and get no reply and
> don't see it in the archive. I noticed that Anthony's last message
> just recently got appended to the archive, but who knows when he
> actually sent it.)

With the addition of the separated smtpd processes, e-mail appears to
be pumping through the server.  I haven't had to restart qmail or
mailman since the change.  Before the change, we needed to restart
either or both multiple times a day.

Anthony's message ([thelist] Why does this JS code work the way it
does???) is stamped with multiple times.  Here's the headers from the
mbox file:

>From anthony at baratta.com Tue Dec 12 13:03:59 2006
Return-Path: anthony at baratta.com
Delivered-To: lists.evolt.org-thelist at lists.evolt.org
Received: (qmail 23630 invoked by uid 1016); 12 Dec 2006 07:03:59 -0600
Received: from anthony at baratta.com by tempest by uid 1014 with
        (clamdscan: 0.73. spamassassin: 2.20.  Clear:RC:0(
        Processed in 5.466764 secs); 12 Dec 2006 13:03:59 -0000
X-Antivirus-evolt.org-Mail-From: anthony at baratta.com via tempest
X-Antivirus-evolt.org: 1.22-st-qms (Clear:RC:0( Processed in
        5.466764 secs Process 23614)
Received: from mail.areamail.net (
        by tempest.evolt.org with SMTP; 12 Dec 2006 07:03:53 -0600
Received: from localhost ([])
        by mail.areamail.net (Merak 8.5.0-9) with SMTP id PEL81451
        for <thelist at lists.evolt.org>; Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:52:51 -0800
Date: Mon, 11 Dec 2006 10:52:51 -0800
From: Anthony Baratta <anthony at baratta.com>
To: evolt <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
Message-ID: <7dffad5c29868820178e7e7376247983 at baratta.com>
X-Mailer: IceWarp Web Mail 5.6.7
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Subject: [thelist] Why does this JS code work the way it does???
X-BeenThere: thelist at lists.evolt.org
X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.6
Precedence: list
Reply-To: Anthony Baratta <anthony at baratta.com>,
        "thelist at lists.evolt.org" <thelist at lists.evolt.org>
X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2006 13:04:00 -0000

Note that various timestamps.  qmail on tempest seems to have received
the message on Tue Dec 12 07:03:53 CST.  The incoming message was
processed in 5.5 seconds and was on its way out on Tue Dec 12 07:03:59

There's an additional header that says "mail.areamail.net received the
message from the localhost ( on Mon Dec 11 10:52:51 PST
which would imply that it took a long time getting out of
mail.areamail.net.  Since Anthony's MUA stamped the message at Mon Dec
11 10:52:51 PST as well.

The archive says that the e-mail was received on Mon Dec 11 12:52:51
CST which would be the time of sending.

So the problem appears to be that the e-mail spent a long time in
mail.areamail.net's queue and the list archives e-mail by the sending
date and not the date the e-mail was received by mailman.

Does that make sense or are you seeing a different problem?


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