Martin wrote quite bluntly: > I'll say it again: if anyone wants to genuinely change the direction > of our technical strategy, then stand up and say so. But if by doing > so the hope is to derail the existing positive energy, then that's > petty, and a no-hoper. > > Anyway, enough distraction I feel like I'm at a wedding, and the robed man just told us to speak now or forever hold our collective peace. I sure hope there's an open bar at the reception. It seems odd that you say your goal is to NOT derail current momentum and discussions, and you wish to accomplish this goal by goading dissenters to bring up old discussions onlist. It seems to me that you are simply bothered by the fact that there is perhaps disagreement with the direction evolt has taken in the last 4-5 years, and because you aren't listening in on the disagreement, you can't respond in your usual fashion (which is generally quite effective, to your credit). If evolt is about selecting the best CMS, then I think you all are doing a great job. If evolt exists to excite people about pre-packaged solutions that maximize efficiency often lost in custom software development, then I think you are all doing a great job. If evolt exists to pick the best third-party modules and plugins to facilitate article approval processes that can handle volumes of 2 articles every 6 months, then I think you are all doing a great job. If evolt is about requiring membership in an unrelated community if you want to be able to contribute code or enhancements to evolt software, then I think you are all doing a great job. Evolt was in a very different situation 4 years ago. I actually don't have a problem with the decision to move to Drupal given that situation; it was triage at its finest. But how can you look at the past 4 years and not say that something is missing? Do you really think that upgrading Drupal is going to revive evolt? Is that the problem our community has currently -- an outdated version of Drupal? I don't think anyone is trying to derail anything. I have no problem with people engaging in a technology upgrade. All I am suggesting is that people should not delude themselves into thinking such activities will fix anything with evolt. The current CMS -- however outdated it might be -- is plenty functional and can easily handle our tiny volume of content. So, the question is: what is REALLY broken about evolt and how do we fix it? Upgrade Drupal. Upgrade MySQL. Upgrade whatever you want. But the irony here is that THOSE ACTIVITIES look like the current distraction from dealing with the central problem with this community. Now, as requested, I will shut up. -- Matt Warden Cincinnati, OH, USA http://mattwarden.com This email proudly and graciously contributes to entropy.