[theforum] A sound of silence
Martin Burns
martin at easyweb.co.uk
Thu Nov 20 17:13:06 CST 2008
On 20 Nov 2008, at 18:07, Matt Warden wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2008 at 12:50 PM, <ekm at seastorm.com> wrote:
>> Like Matt, would like to hear (again, maybe *from* Matt) ideas about
>> energizing evolt.
>
> Ditch drupal and write a custom CMS using ruby on rails
To put the first few counter arguments that come to mind, for balance
sake, in no particular order:
1) Code-fests were only ever a small group of people that met a small
number of times. Both dwindled to effectively zero a long time before
we moved to Drupal (and the dwindling was a contributory factor). As a
community builder, it's streets behind even the beervolts we had in
London.
2) weo is a means, not an end
3) Custom Build is playing developer-decades' worth of catchup
4) NIH (Not Invented Here) is generally an exercise in vanity
5) evolt has always used other people's software; if Custom-Build is
important, why start/stop at weo? Why not do list management, web
framework, operating system (etc)
6) Using weo to experiment on is hugely risky; better to start on
(say) leo front end
7) Even given a surge of enthusiasm, building what we'd now understand
as a competent CMS from scratch in any timeframe measurable in weeks
or months is wildly optimistic
8) By definition, CMS core development could only involve a subset of
skills that the evolt community has (and point 1 bears this out), so
automatically excludes a lot of people who simply cannot be part of
the 'inner circle'. Building templates (even with PHP) doesn't take a
lot of learning.
I'll leave others to discuss the value/otherwise of RoR-specifics.
tbh, if coding stuff is valuable in its own right, we'd be better off
custom-coding Drupal modules. Within the community, we probably (it
feels to me anyway) have more PHP people than anything else.
Cheers
Martin
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