ok so... some of our current styles: > http://www.evolt.org/guide_code2 here are Martin's suggestions: http://lists.evolt.org/theforumarchive/Week-of-Mon-20081103/006812.html ah yes, there are some red headlines sorry. (I had only looked at the code guide before.) So we make 'em black and make whatever other minor adjustments seem prudent. What is easier to do? (I mean, assuming you can *get* to the CSS.) I love Isaac, but IIRC no one died and made him God of evolt.org CSS. This is OUR site. Why on earth are we afraid to stick our necks out and make it better? Erika