These guys also broke off with Wired about the same time we did.. they have a pretty decent readership from what i understand, despite a less than easy interface.. JP Hackworth, one of thier contributers, is on thelist.. and he did a little interview with me and the newstrolls founder about Wired and our breaks from them a while back.. http://newstrolls.com/news/dev/hackworth/evolt.html .djc. rudy wrote: > more evoltspotting -- > > http://www.newstrolls.com/ > under Links you Must Have (way down the left column)