hi jeff did a search for "evolt" in the google archive of usenet posts there's some interesting stuff in there -- mostly the browser archive, but several which make it appear that evolt is a pretty respected authority, especially when guys like alan flavell start citing us -- http://groups.google.com/groups?q=evolt++-browser&start=30&hl=en&rnum=38&sel m=Pine.LNX.4.30.0107211758460.20866-100000%40lxplus023.cern.ch) anyhow, on another post i clicked through on an old style evolt link, and it didn't work please try it, here's the post -- http://groups.google.com/groups?q=evolt&start=20&hl=en&rnum=22&selm=donarb-0 511991101270001%40ip230.usw3.rb1.bel.nwlink.com note the link is http://www.evolt.org/index.cfm?menu=8&cid=454 and it gets translated as http://www.evolt.org/:%20http://www.evolt.org/article/Workaround_for_radio_b utton_color_problem/17/454/index.html i.e. it looks like it's searching for ": http:" (see keyword input field) this is not a big problem (didn't we decide to abandon old style urls?) but i thought you should know... rudy