hey, in case you diddnt see what simon coggins was working on http://members.evolt.org/astro38/evolt/index.php a directory for web design - pretty cool. someone on thelist brought up a good point about using a different style.. David, do we have any 'extra' color schemes laying around that we could use instead of the b.e.o blue? it would be cool if he could use one of them at any rate.. la la la.. cracking the whip today :)