[thesite] user selectable style help

[.jeff]

michele,

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> From: Michele Foster
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> | yes, my point exactly.  unfortunately we're going to
> | run into this problem again -- especially when we
> | allow people to create their own stylesheets.
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> If we get to that part ... we'll see if the pre-existing
> ones are enough or if people start to want to create
> their own.
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trust me -- it'll be *when*, not if.

better to address these issues now rather than later.

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> | hold on there sister.  you can't just go changing
> | someone else's stylesheet.
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> Why not?  If they haven't defined/modifed an element,
> then it should be changed.
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you can make sure the stylesheets are correct as far as the classes and css
validity.  however, you can't go changing colors, fonts, font sizes, that
sort of thing.  understand the distinction?

the reason it's so important with this particular one is that it's a
rendition of our original design which happened to use that blue color
across the top with bright green links in it.  whether or not it's too much
for the eyes or not is not the issue.

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> Looking at the same style sheet, the class for "side" is
> the same as "main" which, if you look at this article:
> http://test.evolt.org/article/blah/17/16286/index.html
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> It is displayed not as intended.  So, what should I do
> in this case?  Everything is still readable.
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the article looks fine to me.  the fact that the little example widgets
don't have a different background color behind them is moot (which i'm
guessing is what you're basing the "displayed not as intended" remark).  i
simply need to apply some consistent styling to both the table cell and
radio button to get around the issue where the radio button takes the
background color of the page itself.

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> Will use this .. as its consistent with what's been used
> in the past.
>
> Also need to add:
>
> a.pagetitle1:visited
> a.pagetitle1:hover
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and a.pagetitle1:active, a.pagetitle2:link, a.pagetitle2:visited,
a.pagetitle2:hover, a.pagetitle2:active.  fwiw, the evoltoldschool.css file
needs to have the colors for all pagetitle1 link psuedo-classes set to the
green color (#66ff66 i think).

it's not as simple as adding them though.  if they're added, the html for
the links in those sections needs to be updated to use the classes
appropriately.

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> But, I still don't see why we can't change the colour of
> the box, i.e. PageTitle1, since as a shade of "Main" it
> would be consistent with the other CSS's we're using.
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the color of the box can't be changed because it's an element of design in
the old site which is what is trying to be mimicked.  maintaining the
stylesheet author's look and feel is more important than trying to create
some sort of consistency with previous stylesheets that have been created
and used.

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> I think all the CSS's should maintain some sort of
> consistency among themselves.
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again, that's not for us to decide.  it's up to the author of the
stylesheet.  it's up to us to try to account for these sorts of things and
build this as flexible as necessary to accommodate them.

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> So, the question becomes, how close do we want to keep
> with the "theme" that we have already for the CSS files
> for evolt.org?
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these styles have nothing to do with any "themes" that have been developed
in the past and used on the various sub-sites.  in fact, these are sort of a
departure from that  into a world of uniqueness and creativity.

thanks,

.jeff

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