LMAO ... I dunno if this helps or hinders .. but here's Joel's final version .. that Jeff's to code http://members.evolt.org/spinhead/teo/ratings_bar5dec.html The Fruit Punch is a joke, btw. :) Lots of variations/iterations available in the comments for this article. http://test.evolt.org/article/yeah/17/16286/index.html Don't worry David .. we'll have ya up to speed in a .. 3 months ? ;) So, back to my original question .. Mich ----- Original Message ----- From: "David McCreath" <mccreath at ak.net> | Tonight on ABC: It's the .jeff and Dave show! Watch Dave try to catch up | on three months of development while .jeff rolls his eyes and sets him | straight!