From cspruck at mindspring.com Sat Jun 1 14:47:00 2002 From: cspruck at mindspring.com (Chris Spruck) Date: Sat Jun 1 14:47:00 2002 Subject: [thesite] meo / webmail bugs In-Reply-To: <200205312051.g4VKpgg02354@alice.monkeyland.ca> References: <1027.139.130.216.191.1022742071.squirrel@members.evolt.org> Message-ID: <4.2.2.20020601154113.026dfe50@pop3.norton.antivirus> At 02:51 PM 5/31/02 -0600, Dean Mah wrote: >I think that I've got this working now. Take a gander and let me know >if you still have problems. Dean, I tried my meo mail today through the webmail and with my regular POP client and it both tell me the password is bad. I haven't changed it and I've tried it enough times now to know that I'm not just mistyping it. Any ideas? No big hurry. Thanks! Chris From mwarden at mattwarden.com Mon Jun 3 19:54:03 2002 From: mwarden at mattwarden.com (Warden, Matt) Date: Mon Jun 3 19:54:03 2002 Subject: [thesite] May 2002 stats for evolt.org Message-ID: Hello evolters! The stats for May are hot off the press for your viewing pleasure. ## Brief Perusal ## Hits: 2.6 million (new record by 200,000!) Page Views: 900,500 (another new record by 75,000!) Page Views/day: 29,500 Unique hosts served: 127,200 Data Transferred: 140GB (new record by almost 38GB!) ## Nitty Gritty ## Top Referrers google (google.com, google.ca, google.co.uk, etc.) about 175,000 peterme.com about 6000 blueigloo.org - 3134 userland.com - 2532 Browsers & OS info MSIE-based clients held down the fort with about 71% of requests Netscape clients brought home 9.2% while Opera came in with 2.4%. Konqueror came in with 0.36%. Windows systems account for 75.4% (99 requests from WindowsCE!) Mac 4.5% Unix 3.3% (3% of which is Linux) WebTV 0.2% Werd up to the person who's visiting evolt with Atari! Top 10 members.evolt.org accounts: 1. http://members.evolt.org/marceloslg 2. http://members.evolt.org/desflynn 3. http://members.evolt.org/deadL0ck 4. http://members.evolt.org/DarthGreg 5. http://members.evolt.org/jesteruk 6. http://members.evolt.org/djc 7. http://members.evolt.org/mwarden (look out!) 8. http://members.evolt.org/shaggy 9. http://members.evolt.org/kroet 10.http://members.evolt.org/bumblelee ## The Nitty Nitty Gritty ## http://browsers.evolt.org/stats/stats.may2002.html (yes, i love horizontal scroll too) Comments? Questions? Like long walks on the beach? Shoot me an email. -- mattwarden mattwarden.com Find the how, what, and why you should consider a donation to evolt.org - http://members.evolt.org/contribute/ From info at evolt.org Tue Jun 4 17:15:01 2002 From: info at evolt.org (evolt.org info) Date: Tue Jun 4 17:15:01 2002 Subject: [thesite] Login doesn't work Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20020605033157.01c203a8@203.197.12.4> I logged out of evolt.org to check something, and now I can't log back in because it doesn't accept my password. I've tried the "email password" feature using both my username and my email, and there's nothing in my email. Could someone please change my password, and email it to me please? Is this a bug? My username is "themadman". (Until then, I can't do my regular admin duties) Regards, Madhu From dmah at shaw.ca Tue Jun 4 17:22:02 2002 From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah) Date: Tue Jun 4 17:22:02 2002 Subject: [thesite] Login doesn't work In-Reply-To: <"from info"@evolt.org> References: <5.1.0.14.2.20020605033157.01c203a8@203.197.12.4> Message-ID: <20020604162038.A2723@alice.cg.shawcable.net> On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 03:32:56AM +0530, evolt.org info wrote: > I logged out of evolt.org to check something, and now I can't log back in > because it doesn't accept my password. I've tried the "email password" > feature using both my username and my email, and there's nothing in my email. > > Could someone please change my password, and email it to me please? Is this > a bug? My username is "themadman". I was able to login to your account with your current password without a problem. Dean From miriam at members.evolt.org Tue Jun 4 17:49:00 2002 From: miriam at members.evolt.org (Miriam) Date: Tue Jun 4 17:49:00 2002 Subject: [thesite] FW: [Theforum] steering committee needed In-Reply-To: <1027.139.130.216.191.1023179380.squirrel@members.evolt.org> Message-ID: Over on the forum... Marlene Bruce said: > * The members of each monkey group need to elect their > representatives this week. > We should report on the election results next Monday latest, unless > everyone's done sooner. And Lachlan added: > +1 I'd like to add, I think the voting should be done by the start of the > weekend to allow the reps to get organised. Anyone wanna talk about this? From marlene at members.evolt.org Tue Jun 4 18:18:01 2002 From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce) Date: Tue Jun 4 18:18:01 2002 Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed In-Reply-To: References: Message-ID: >Marlene Bruce said: >> * The members of each monkey group need to elect their >> representatives this week. >> We should report on the election results next Monday latest, unless >> everyone's done sooner. > >And Lachlan added: >> +1 I'd like to add, I think the voting should be done by the start of the > > weekend to allow the reps to get organised. > >Anyone wanna talk about this? Sure, feel free to make a nomination, or discuss this as desired. Warmly, Marlene From isaac at members.evolt.org Wed Jun 5 02:30:00 2002 From: isaac at members.evolt.org (isaac) Date: Wed Jun 5 02:30:00 2002 Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed In-Reply-To: Message-ID: > Sure, feel free to make a nomination, or discuss this as desired. Perhaps aim for a rep from the code side, and one from design? isaac From roselli at earthlink.net Wed Jun 5 08:36:03 2002 From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark) Date: Wed Jun 5 08:36:03 2002 Subject: [thesite] (Fwd) Re: [css-d] Opera and overflow Message-ID: <200206051335.g55DZcCN014602@leo.evolt.org> remember my attempts to create a scrollable 
 that could  
replace our textarea? 

remember how i couldn't get the farging thing to work in O6 or  
IE5/Mac? 

well, at least in O6, i now know it's a bug... and i don't much care  
for the hack... 

anyway, now it's in the archives... 

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Subject:        	Re: [css-d] Opera and overflow 
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Hello list, 

> From: "Steve Tannock"  

> So I've just discovered that Opera seems to ignore the 
overflow:auto 
> setting (which seems to be working happily on the other 
compliant 
> browsers). 

Yes, that's one of the items on the not-supported-yet list here: 
  http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/ 

You can't get Opera to create a scrollbar in the a DIV (except by 
putting a IFRAME in it of course). 

If you define 'overflow: scroll;', Opera treats this like 'overflow: 
hidden;'. 'overflow: auto;' is treated as 'overflow: visible;' 

>  Is 
> there a crafty workaround for this that anyone knows of? 
Currently, 
> the text just flows right out of my box, over the box beneath it. Is 
> there a way to hide the height: property for certain browsers, a la 
> 'the voice-family' trick? 

This one seems to work  
http://html.conclase.net/pruebas/hacko5.html 
I'd advise to use 'media="screen, projection"' or 'media="all"' 
though, as 'screen' style sheets are not applied in Full screen 
mode 
in Opera. 


Greetings, 
 Rijk                            mailto:rijk at iname.com 
(Opera Software employee) 

Mot du Jour: 
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From dmah at shaw.ca  Wed Jun  5 10:13:10 2002
From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah)
Date: Wed Jun  5 10:13:10 2002
Subject: [thesite] [bug] comment in Embed HTML in XML...
Message-ID: <200206051511.g55FBuu01480@alice.monkeyland.ca>

It looks like there is something wrong with the comments in this
article:

http://evolt.org/article/Embed_HTML_in_XML_and_Retrieve_it_with_XSL/17/27855/index.html?cfid=646784&cftoken=45060708#comments

In Linux/Mozilla, only 2 of the comments appear and there's a "Preview
Comment" button at the end of the page.

In Linux/NN and Win/IE, 3 comments show but the second comment seems
to be missing the information after the "XSL:" header.

Dean


From ppxsjc1 at nottingham.ac.uk  Wed Jun  5 11:14:10 2002
From: ppxsjc1 at nottingham.ac.uk (Simon Coggins)
Date: Wed Jun  5 11:14:10 2002
Subject: [thesite] (Fwd) Re: [css-d] Opera and overflow
In-Reply-To: <200206051335.g55DZcCN014602@leo.evolt.org>
Message-ID: 

> remember my attempts to create a scrollable 
 that could  
> replace our textarea? 
> 
> well, at least in O6, i now know it's a bug... and i don't much care  
> for the hack... 

When I was messing around with this I discovered an interesting
Opera-specific CSS tag which could be of help here:

white-space: -pre-wrap;

(yes the - at the beginning is right).

The result is the same as white-space: pre;, except that it wraps long
lines. Not ideal for copying and pasting, but perhaps an acceptable
workaround?

Some more info:

http://www.opera.com/docs/specs/opera5/
In addition Opera accepts a non-standard value for the CSS2 white-space
property, namely white-space: -pre-wrap. This value is exactly like
white-space: pre with the exception that lines will wrap if wider than wider 
than the containing box. This is particularily handy for plaintext formats
with unpredictable position of line break characters, like email messages. 
Unlike the other white-space settings hoawever, -pre-wrap will display tab 
characters like small boxes.

Seems like it's supported from Opera 4+:

http://www.blooberry.com/indexdot/css/supportkey/text.htm

I had some success using the following rules:

.codeblock {
  width: 350px;
  padding: 20px 10px;
  border: 1px solid #000;
  background: #9AA486;
  white-space: -pre-wrap;
  overflow: auto;
}

Good luck,

Simon



From ppxsjc1 at nottingham.ac.uk  Wed Jun  5 11:14:20 2002
From: ppxsjc1 at nottingham.ac.uk (Simon Coggins)
Date: Wed Jun  5 11:14:20 2002
Subject: [thesite] (Fwd) Re: [css-d] Opera and overflow
In-Reply-To: <200206051335.g55DZcCN014602@leo.evolt.org>
Message-ID: 

Oh, here's an example page I created a while ago:

http://members.evolt.org/simonc/css/fixedwidthtable.html

you should be able to see the lines wrapping in the 3rd, 4th and 5th code
blocks.

Simon




From roselli at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  5 11:15:35 2002
From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark)
Date: Wed Jun  5 11:15:35 2002
Subject: [thesite] [bug] comment in Embed HTML in XML...
In-Reply-To: <200206051511.g55FBuu01480@alice.monkeyland.ca>
Message-ID: <200206051614.g55GEBCN020935@leo.evolt.org>

> From: Dean Mah 
>
> It looks like there is something wrong with the comments in this
> article:
> 
> http://evolt.org/article/Embed_HTML_in_XML_and_Retrieve_it_with_XSL/17
> /27855/index.html?cfid=646784&cftoken=45060708#comments
> 
> In Linux/Mozilla, only 2 of the comments appear and there's a "Preview
> Comment" button at the end of the page.
> 
> In Linux/NN and Win/IE, 3 comments show but the second comment seems
> to be missing the information after the "XSL:" header.

the second comment was fux0r3d last night when i checked it, so i 
stuffed into 
 and encoded the < and > characters... IOW, i 
fixed it up better than it was...

there was no content under the XSL header, just lots of tabs... i 
assumed it somehow got parsed/eaten by the CMS, finished my 
ice cream sandwich, and went to bed...

dunno 'bout the other problems, but hope that helps some...


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From marlene at members.evolt.org  Wed Jun  5 13:06:00 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Wed Jun  5 13:06:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

>  > Sure, feel free to make a nomination, or discuss this as desired.
>
>Perhaps aim for a rep from the code side, and one from design?

Okay, I nominate Isaac.

I don't know who to nominate from the code side. I can't see who is 
on this list, except for those who've posted since I reactivated my 
account. Can we fix that (most of the other lists you can see who the 
subscribers are)?

Thanks,
Marlene


From jeff at members.evolt.org  Wed Jun  5 13:40:00 2002
From: jeff at members.evolt.org (.jeff)
Date: Wed Jun  5 13:40:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> From: Marlene Bruce
> 
> Okay, I nominate Isaac.
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

i'd like to second isaac.

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> I don't know who to nominate from the code side.
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

waves hands.

.jeff

http://evolt.org/
jeff at members.evolt.org
http://members.evolt.org/jeff/




From marlene at members.evolt.org  Wed Jun  5 13:54:15 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Wed Jun  5 13:54:15 2002
Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

>  ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
>>  I don't know who to nominate from the code side.
>><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
>
>waves hands.

Okay, I nominate Jeff.

:o)
Marlene


From roselli at earthlink.net  Wed Jun  5 14:02:01 2002
From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark)
Date: Wed Jun  5 14:02:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <200206051901.g55J1MCN027917@leo.evolt.org>

> From: ".jeff" 
> 
> ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> > I don't know who to nominate from the code side.
> ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> 
> waves hands.

i nominate the dancing monkey known as .jeff...


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From gnarly at punkass.com  Wed Jun  5 14:43:04 2002
From: gnarly at punkass.com (Olly Hodgson)
Date: Wed Jun  5 14:43:04 2002
Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed
References: 
Message-ID: <090c01c20cc3$699f5180$0100a8c0@olly>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: ".jeff" 
Subject: RE: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed


> i'd like to second isaac.

+1
 
> waves hands.

I'd like to nominate .jeff on the code side :-)

Olly.




From isaac at members.evolt.org  Wed Jun  5 21:03:36 2002
From: isaac at members.evolt.org (isaac)
Date: Wed Jun  5 21:03:36 2002
Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed
In-Reply-To: <090c01c20cc3$699f5180$0100a8c0@olly>
Message-ID: 


> > i'd like to second isaac.
>
> +1
>
> > waves hands.
>
> I'd like to nominate .jeff on the code side :-)

I vote for Jeff.

I un-nominate myself. I'd like to kick off with some time representing the
Marketing gang.

Maybe another time.


isaac

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From gnarly at punkass.com  Wed Jun  5 21:03:43 2002
From: gnarly at punkass.com (Olly Hodgson)
Date: Wed Jun  5 21:03:43 2002
Subject: [thesite] Tip Harvester Categories
Message-ID: <01e401c20cf5$13b62460$0100a8c0@olly>

Could we add a few more canonical category thingys?

I'd like to see these:

- JSP
- VBScript
- Security

Olly




From dmah at members.evolt.org  Wed Jun  5 21:14:10 2002
From: dmah at members.evolt.org (Dean Mah)
Date: Wed Jun  5 21:14:10 2002
Subject: [thesite] Tip Harvester Categories
In-Reply-To: <"from gnarly"@punkass.com>
References: <01e401c20cf5$13b62460$0100a8c0@olly>
Message-ID: <20020605201028.A4578@alice.cg.shawcable.net>

Done.

Dean


On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 01:57:03AM +0100, Olly Hodgson wrote:
> Could we add a few more canonical category thingys?
> 
> I'd like to see these:
> 
> - JSP
> - VBScript
> - Security


From evolt at funkwit.com  Thu Jun  6 08:11:00 2002
From: evolt at funkwit.com (Paul Cowan)
Date: Thu Jun  6 08:11:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] RSS feed
Message-ID: <057801c20d21$1a296ec0$3e02a8c0@cusack>

Hi all,

Out of curiosity, what with syndication (RDF/RSS etc) being all the talk at
the moment (more and more so each day, I gather), does evolt.org have an RSS
feed of its latest articles? I managed to find this:
    http://lists.evolt.org/thesitearchive/2001-March/001032.html
which points to this:
    http://evolt.org/evolt/xml/rdf.cfm
but that throws a CF error.

Just curious as to whether there was a newer version, or anything like that.
It would be very useful, and with the plethora of aggregation portals and
tools at the moment, a great way to increase "brand awareness" (ugh. what an
awful phrase.)

Cheers,

Paul.



From luminosity at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun  6 08:12:27 2002
From: luminosity at members.evolt.org (Lachlan Cannon)
Date: Thu Jun  6 08:12:27 2002
Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed
In-Reply-To: <090c01c20cc3$699f5180$0100a8c0@olly>
References: <090c01c20cc3$699f5180$0100a8c0@olly>
Message-ID: <1028.139.130.216.191.1023355115.squirrel@members.evolt.org>

>
>> waves hands.
>
> I'd like to nominate .jeff on the code side :-)

I'd like to nominate Dean on the code side. I'd also like to second .jeff.
Doh.
Lach
--------------------------------------
http://members.evolt.org/luminosity/
MSN: luminosity @ members.evolt.org
--------------------------------------




From dmah at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  6 09:27:10 2002
From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah)
Date: Thu Jun  6 09:27:10 2002
Subject: [thesite] RSS feed
In-Reply-To: <"from evolt"@funkwit.com>
References: <057801c20d21$1a296ec0$3e02a8c0@cusack>
Message-ID: <20020606082608.A1459@alice.cg.shawcable.net>

On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:12:12PM +1000, Paul Cowan wrote:

> Out of curiosity, what with syndication (RDF/RSS etc) being all the talk at
> the moment (more and more so each day, I gather), does evolt.org have an RSS
> feed of its latest articles? I managed to find this:
>     http://lists.evolt.org/thesitearchive/2001-March/001032.html
> which points to this:
>     http://evolt.org/evolt/xml/rdf.cfm
> but that throws a CF error.

Actually, try this link:

   http://evolt.org/rdf/articles/index.rdf

which you can get from:

   http://evolt.org/evolt_source_code/index.html

Hopefully that one works better.

Dean


From dmah at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  6 10:07:27 2002
From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah)
Date: Thu Jun  6 10:07:27 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee needed)
In-Reply-To: <"from marlene"@members.evolt.org>
References: 
 
Message-ID: <20020606084500.A1517@alice.cg.shawcable.net>

On Wed, Jun 05, 2002 at 11:05:17AM -0700, Marlene Bruce wrote:

> I don't know who to nominate from the code side. I can't see who is
> on this list, except for those who've posted since I reactivated my
> account. Can we fix that (most of the other lists you can see who
> the subscribers are)?

The problem is not with the list configuration, it is with the list
information page.  This page is a customized version of the mailman
pages and does not include the 'list members' feature.  Someone will
need to tune the HTML.

Dean



From tara at taracleveland.com  Thu Jun  6 10:07:41 2002
From: tara at taracleveland.com (Tara Cleveland)
Date: Thu Jun  6 10:07:41 2002
Subject: [thesite] RSS feed
In-Reply-To: <057801c20d21$1a296ec0$3e02a8c0@cusack>
Message-ID: 

> Out of curiosity, what with syndication (RDF/RSS etc) being all the talk at
> the moment (more and more so each day, I gather), does evolt.org have an RSS
> feed of its latest articles?

That is a fabulous idea!

I don't know if it exists or anything, but I do think it's a great idea. I
don't know much about how to produce XML or RSS feeds, but if it needs to be
done, I'd be happy to help out someone who knows a bit more than I do.

Regards,
Tara
-- 
Tara Cleveland
Web Design and Consulting
http://www.taracleveland.com





From jeff at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun  6 12:07:01 2002
From: jeff at members.evolt.org (.jeff)
Date: Thu Jun  6 12:07:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed
In-Reply-To: <1028.139.130.216.191.1023355115.squirrel@members.evolt.org>
Message-ID: 

lach,

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> From: Lachlan Cannon
>
> I'd like to nominate Dean on the code side.
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

dean's pretty busy on sysadmin and probably going to be filling a
representative role there if time allows.

how about more of a design-oriented member?

.jeff

http://evolt.org/
jeff at members.evolt.org
http://members.evolt.org/jeff/




From marlene at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun  6 12:23:33 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Thu Jun  6 12:23:33 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee needed)
In-Reply-To: <20020606084500.A1517@alice.cg.shawcable.net>
References: 
 
 <20020606084500.A1517@alice.cg.shawcable.net>
Message-ID: 

>The problem is not with the list configuration, it is with the list
>information page.  This page is a customized version of the mailman
>pages and does not include the 'list members' feature.  Someone will
>need to tune the HTML.

Since this is becoming (has become?) a closed list, can we convert 
the interface to the same (non-customized, I guess) version that's 
used for the other group lists (e.g., 
http://lists.evolt.org/mailman/listinfo/content )?

How does one tune the HTML? I've never had/used FTP access to 
anything, and if it's in the database I wouldn't know the first 
thing...

I'd be happy to try, though, with some pointers.

We also need to remove reference to TheSite from this page: 
http://lists.evolt.org/

Thanks,
Marlene


From jeff at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun  6 12:35:55 2002
From: jeff at members.evolt.org (.jeff)
Date: Thu Jun  6 12:35:55 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee needed)
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

marlene,

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> From: Marlene Bruce
>
> Since this is becoming (has become?) a closed list, can
> we convert the interface to the same (non-customized, I
> guess) version that's used for the other group lists
> (http://lists.evolt.org/mailman/listinfo/content)?
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

i *just* got done adding the piece to the listinfo page that allows you to
query the list of members if you are a member of thesite list.  lemme know
if that works better for ya.

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> We also need to remove reference to TheSite from this page:
> http://lists.evolt.org/
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

why?

.jeff

http://evolt.org/
jeff at members.evolt.org
http://members.evolt.org/jeff/




From marlene at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun  6 13:03:33 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Thu Jun  6 13:03:33 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee
 needed)
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

>i *just* got done adding the piece to the listinfo page that allows you to
>query the list of members if you are a member of thesite list.  lemme know
>if that works better for ya.

Yup, thanks, just peachy.

Wow. We've got 139 members here (including all hidden and nomail).

>  ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
>>  We also need to remove reference to TheSite from this page:
>>  http://lists.evolt.org/
>><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
>
>why?

Because, according to the discussion on TheForum, this is now a 
closed list. Not just anyone can subscribe any more*, right Dean?

Thanks,
Marlene

* (this is in an attempt to stem the number of members to just those 
who will actively participate ... a rather laughable pursuit at least 
regarding this list, in light of how many members we already have 
here)


From jeff at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun  6 13:19:40 2002
From: jeff at members.evolt.org (.jeff)
Date: Thu Jun  6 13:19:40 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee needed)
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

marlene,

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> From: Marlene Bruce
>
> > > We also need to remove reference to TheSite from
> > > this page: http://lists.evolt.org/
> >
> > why?
>
> Because, according to the discussion on TheForum, this
> is now a closed list. Not just anyone can subscribe
> any more*, right Dean?
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

so it's a closed list.  we don't need to pull the reference from the address
above to keep it that way.  i'd like to at least make it easy for people to
find this list and then handle the subscription requests as they come in.

i think we should do the same with the other lists, btw.

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> * (this is in an attempt to stem the number of members
> to just those who will actively participate ... a rather
> laughable pursuit at least regarding this list, in light
> of how many members we already have here)
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

agreed.

i'm inclined to unsubscribe any addresses that haven't posted to this list
in the last 6 months.

dean, any chance you can get me that list of subscribed addresses that have
posted to this list in the last 6 months or so?

thanks,

.jeff





From marlene at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun  6 13:29:39 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Thu Jun  6 13:29:39 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee
 needed)
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

>so it's a closed list.  we don't need to pull the reference from the address
>above to keep it that way.  i'd like to at least make it easy for people to
>find this list and then handle the subscription requests as they come in.
>
>i think we should do the same with the other lists, btw.

Okay, fine by me.

>  ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
>>  * (this is in an attempt to stem the number of members
>>  to just those who will actively participate ... a rather
>>  laughable pursuit at least regarding this list, in light
>>  of how many members we already have here)
>><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
>
>agreed.
>
>i'm inclined to unsubscribe any addresses that haven't posted to this list
>in the last 6 months.

+1.

Marlene


From judi at frognet.net  Thu Jun  6 13:34:33 2002
From: judi at frognet.net (Judith Taylor)
Date: Thu Jun  6 13:34:33 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee needed)
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <20020606182522.8219.qmail@hookworm.frognet.net>

*chuckle* Looks like I may be in trouble seeing as how my involvement has
been rather sporadic. While I may not post a whole lot, I do try to read
all the messages....but if I have nothing to add, I generally try not to
post 'static'.

Oh well, c'est la vie, non?

Judith Taylor
Sometime CF, ASP, PHP Developer...All time person. ;)

.jeff writes:

> i'm inclined to unsubscribe any addresses that haven't posted to this list
> in the last 6 months.
> 



From dmah at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  6 14:19:59 2002
From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah)
Date: Thu Jun  6 14:19:59 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee needed)
In-Reply-To: <"from marlene"@members.evolt.org>
References: 
 
Message-ID: <20020606131224.A1935@alice.cg.shawcable.net>

On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 10:59:41AM -0700, Marlene Bruce wrote:

> Because, according to the discussion on TheForum, this is now a 
> closed list. Not just anyone can subscribe any more*, right Dean?

No, I haven't done this yet.  I thought that it was still to be
decided on theforum.

Dean



From dmah at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  6 14:25:00 2002
From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah)
Date: Thu Jun  6 14:25:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee needed)
In-Reply-To: <"from jeff"@members.evolt.org>
References: 
 
Message-ID: <20020606131559.B1935@alice.cg.shawcable.net>

On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 11:11:34AM -0700, .jeff wrote:

> i'm inclined to unsubscribe any addresses that haven't posted to this list
> in the last 6 months.
> 
> dean, any chance you can get me that list of subscribed addresses that have
> posted to this list in the last 6 months or so?

Not quickly.  The approach that I would take is to harvest e-mail
addresss out of the archives for the last 6 months and cross reference
that with the subscribed list.  If anyone wants to take a crack at it,
let me know.  Right now, it wouldn't be a priority to me.

Dean


From cparker at swatgear.com  Thu Jun  6 18:48:01 2002
From: cparker at swatgear.com (Chris W. Parker)
Date: Thu Jun  6 18:48:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee needed)
Message-ID: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE078181@ati-ex-01.ati.local>

> > Because, according to the discussion on TheForum, this
> > is now a closed list. Not just anyone can subscribe
> > any more*, right Dean?
> ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> 
> so it's a closed list.  we don't need to pull the reference 
> from the address
> above to keep it that way.  i'd like to at least make it easy 
> for people to
> find this list and then handle the subscription requests as 
> they come in.
> 
> i think we should do the same with the other lists, btw.
> 
> ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> > * (this is in an attempt to stem the number of members
> > to just those who will actively participate ... a rather
> > laughable pursuit at least regarding this list, in light
> > of how many members we already have here)
> ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> 
> agreed.
> 
> i'm inclined to unsubscribe any addresses that haven't posted 
> to this list
> in the last 6 months.

besides asking if one can help, what other criteria will there be/is
there now to actually be *able* to help?

what remedial (tips classification, code clean up, etc.) tasks (if any)
are there that need to be done? is there a list somewhere, or something
like that, that i can see so that i can volunteer for something?


chris.


From dmah at shaw.ca  Thu Jun  6 21:23:00 2002
From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah)
Date: Thu Jun  6 21:23:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: thesite member list (was: steering committee needed)
In-Reply-To: <"from cparker"@swatgear.com>
References: <001BD19C96E6E64E8750D72C2EA0ECEE078181@ati-ex-01.ati.local>
Message-ID: <20020606202131.B2609@alice.cg.shawcable.net>

On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 04:47:07PM -0700, Chris W. Parker wrote:

> besides asking if one can help, what other criteria will there be/is
> there now to actually be *able* to help?
>
> what remedial (tips classification, code clean up, etc.) tasks (if
> any) are there that need to be done? is there a list somewhere, or
> something like that, that i can see so that i can volunteer for
> something?

Michele had a short list at:

   http://lists.evolt.org/thesitearchive/2002-April/005245.html

April had a lot of threads on volunteering.

One of the things that I saw shoot through here was the re-design
project.  I haven't been following its progress at all so I don't know
the status.

Dean


From evolt at funkwit.com  Thu Jun  6 23:10:01 2002
From: evolt at funkwit.com (Paul Cowan)
Date: Thu Jun  6 23:10:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] RSS feed
References: <057801c20d21$1a296ec0$3e02a8c0@cusack> <20020606082608.A1459@alice.cg.shawcable.net>
Message-ID: <08e701c20dd8$ceeed1d0$3e02a8c0@cusack>

> Actually, try this link:
>
>    http://evolt.org/rdf/articles/index.rdf
>
> which you can get from:
>
>    http://evolt.org/evolt_source_code/index.html

Excellent. Thanks Dean, that works a treat.

Maybe it's worth adding to the to-do list to include some more metadata for
each article... like the author? Just a thought.

Great job though, I knew it would be somewhere. Maybe, if it's not too much
work, the old link should do a redirect to the new, in case people find the
old link in the archives somewhere like I do?

Thanks for the help!

Paul



From roselli at earthlink.net  Thu Jun  6 23:13:00 2002
From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark)
Date: Thu Jun  6 23:13:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] Re: [Theforum] possible broken link or FUBAR'd file
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: <3CFFF9FA.6697.9A97808C@localhost>

> From: Jeanine Christensen 
>
> http://browsers.evolt.org/index.cfm/dir/ie/mac/5.1.4_Classic/
> 
> Dunno if this is supposed to be as "binary" as this seems to be...
> it's greeked stuff on a separate page, at least when I try to go get
> it (Mac OS 8.6, NN 4.77, T1).
> 
> Uh, I downloaded the 5.1.3 version ok, fwiw...

i'm willing to bet it's a mime-type issue... i'm ccing thesite on 
this...

> Keep up the good work.
> 
> New member,

thanks, good to see you hanging around...
-- 
Read the evolt.org case study
Usability: The Site Speaks for Itself
http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151035/evoltorg
ISBN: 1904151035




From luminosity at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun  6 23:41:01 2002
From: luminosity at members.evolt.org (Lachlan Cannon)
Date: Thu Jun  6 23:41:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1046.139.130.216.191.1023424801.squirrel@members.evolt.org>

\.jeff\ said:
> dean\'s pretty busy on sysadmin and probably going to be filling a
> representative role there if time allows.
>
> how about more of a design-oriented member?

Ahh, fair enough then. Uhh.. who do we have who is a design oriented person?

Lach
--------------------------------------
http://members.evolt.org/luminosity/
MSN: luminosity @ members.evolt.org
--------------------------------------




From marlene at digitizethis.com  Thu Jun  6 23:59:01 2002
From: marlene at digitizethis.com (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Thu Jun  6 23:59:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] search users broken
Message-ID: 

Hey folks,

Search users is broken on w.e.o.

It seems when you search on a name you just get a "find users" search 
page as a result.

Can someone fix?

Thanks,
Marlene


From isaac at members.evolt.org  Fri Jun  7 00:05:00 2002
From: isaac at members.evolt.org (isaac)
Date: Fri Jun  7 00:05:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] FW: [xxxxxxxx] steering committee needed
In-Reply-To: <1046.139.130.216.191.1023424801.squirrel@members.evolt.org>
Message-ID: 

> Ahh, fair enough then. Uhh.. who do we have who is a design 
> oriented person?

Javier, Miriam, Amanda, etc?


From gnarly at punkass.com  Fri Jun  7 18:13:00 2002
From: gnarly at punkass.com (Olly Hodgson)
Date: Fri Jun  7 18:13:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] RSS feed
References: <057801c20d21$1a296ec0$3e02a8c0@cusack> <20020606082608.A1459@alice.cg.shawcable.net> <08e701c20dd8$ceeed1d0$3e02a8c0@cusack>
Message-ID: <016101c20e31$2c755ab0$0100a8c0@olly>

----- Original Message -----
From: "Paul Cowan" 
Subject: Re: [thesite] RSS feed


> Great job though, I knew it would be somewhere. Maybe, if it's not too
much
> work, the old link should do a redirect to the new, in case people find
the
> old link in the archives somewhere like I do?

Perhaps adding an "Add to Sidebar" (or whatever) button to the WEO frontpage
would be an idea? Could be useful for NS/Moz and Opera users.

Olly.




From luminosity at members.evolt.org  Sat Jun  8 00:09:01 2002
From: luminosity at members.evolt.org (Lachlan Cannon)
Date: Sat Jun  8 00:09:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] dev reps
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <1025.139.130.216.191.1023512896.squirrel@members.evolt.org>

isaac said:
>
>> Ahh, fair enough then. Uhh.. who do we have who is a design
>> oriented person?
>
> Javier, Miriam, Amanda, etc?

Hmm.. Javier said he was too busy to be a rep at the moment didn't he? How
about Miriam?

Lach
--------------------------------------
http://members.evolt.org/luminosity/
MSN: luminosity @ members.evolt.org
--------------------------------------




From elfur at elfur.is  Sat Jun  8 09:38:00 2002
From: elfur at elfur.is (Elfur Logadottir)
Date: Sat Jun  8 09:38:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] dev reps
References:  <1025.139.130.216.191.1023512896.squirrel@members.evolt.org>
Message-ID: <0ac801c20ef9$b1b219c0$0100a8c0@DWARFS>

From: "Lachlan Cannon" 

| Hmm.. Javier said he was too busy to be a rep at the moment didn't he?
How
| about Miriam?

Miriam gets my +1
is she gone to ireland or ...??

thanks
elfur



From dmah at shaw.ca  Sun Jun  9 00:44:01 2002
From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah)
Date: Sun Jun  9 00:44:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] [bug] FAQ article problem
Message-ID: <200206090542.g595ggA02339@alice.monkeyland.ca>

Hi,

I'm not able to view Marlene's recent article "Help Support evolt.org"
from the FAQ category.  For instance, click on the question mark in
the black nav bar and then click on the title of her article.  It is
using index.html as the host.  However, I can view this article from
Marlene's list of articles on her profile page.

Dean



From jeff at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun  9 01:30:00 2002
From: jeff at members.evolt.org (.jeff)
Date: Sun Jun  9 01:30:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] [bug] FAQ article problem
In-Reply-To: <200206090542.g595ggA02339@alice.monkeyland.ca>
Message-ID: 

dean,

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> From: Dean Mah
> 
> I'm not able to view Marlene's recent article "Help
> Support evolt.org" from the FAQ category.  For instance,
> click on the question mark in the black nav bar and then
> click on the title of her article.
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

what browser and os?

what do you see in the status bar when you mouse over the link?

can you view other articles in the faq category?

what happens when you click this link?

http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> It is using index.html as the host.
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

what do you mean by this?

thanks,

.jeff

http://evolt.org/
jeff at members.evolt.org
http://members.evolt.org/jeff/




From r937 at interlog.com  Sun Jun  9 01:39:00 2002
From: r937 at interlog.com (rudy)
Date: Sun Jun  9 01:39:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] [bug] FAQ article problem
Message-ID: <01c20f7f$de155b40$f4501dd1@rudy>

> For instance, click on the question mark in the 
> black nav bar and then click on the title of her article. 

worked okay from here


rudy



From marlene at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun  9 14:38:00 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Sun Jun  9 14:38:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] [bug] FAQ article problem
In-Reply-To: <200206090542.g595ggA02339@alice.monkeyland.ca>
References: <200206090542.g595ggA02339@alice.monkeyland.ca>
Message-ID: 

>I'm not able to view Marlene's recent article "Help Support evolt.org"
>from the FAQ category.

Hi Dean,

Works for me (IE 5.1 Mac OS X).

Do we show FAQ articles on the w.e.o. home page? If so, it's not 
showing up for me. If not, why not?

Thanks,
Marlene


From dmah at shaw.ca  Sun Jun  9 15:15:01 2002
From: dmah at shaw.ca (Dean Mah)
Date: Sun Jun  9 15:15:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] [bug] FAQ article problem
In-Reply-To: <"from jeff"@members.evolt.org>
References: <200206090542.g595ggA02339@alice.monkeyland.ca>
 
Message-ID: <20020609141348.A1364@alice.cg.shawcable.net>

On Sat, Jun 08, 2002 at 11:31:35PM -0700, .jeff wrote:

> ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> > From: Dean Mah
> > 
> > I'm not able to view Marlene's recent article "Help
> > Support evolt.org" from the FAQ category.  For instance,
> > click on the question mark in the black nav bar and then
> > click on the title of her article.
> ><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> 
> what browser and os?

Nevermind, seems to be working now.  I was viewing it in Mozilla 0.9.7
on Win2K.  Hovering over the link showed, http://index.html.

Dean


From miriam at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun  9 17:46:00 2002
From: miriam at members.evolt.org (Miriam)
Date: Sun Jun  9 17:46:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] dev reps
In-Reply-To: <0ac801c20ef9$b1b219c0$0100a8c0@DWARFS>
Message-ID: 

> Miriam gets my +1
> is she gone to ireland or ...??



Oh, it's an honor just to be nominated... :-)
I'd be up for it...
Going to Ireland tomorrow though; back on the 20th -- talk to you then??

best,
Miriam

--
http://www.eringoblog.com



From marlene at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun  9 17:51:00 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Sun Jun  9 17:51:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] dev reps
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Hi Miriam,

>Oh, it's an honor just to be nominated... :-)
>I'd be up for it...

Great. You're a shoo-in!

>Going to Ireland tomorrow though; back on the 20th -- talk to you then??

Steering Committee will probably want to meet before then. What do we 
do in that case? Do we need a "sub-rep" or does our other Rep counts 
as two people in the meantime? I think the latter would be fine.

Cheers,
Marlene


From marlene at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun  9 18:49:04 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Sun Jun  9 18:49:04 2002
Subject: [thesite] FAQ articles on home page?
Message-ID: 

Oops, sorry, this should have gone to thesite. Please ignore the one 
that went to SysAdmin. Too many groups to remember!

-----

Hey Development folks,

I was wondering why FAQ articles, or my donate one in particular, 
aren't showing up on the evolt.org home page. Is this usual?

Can we get my article on the home page? We won't get many donations 
with it appearing silently under FAQ alone.

Also, Hugh gave me the code for adding a PayPal button on any page 
(thanks Hugh!), and I was wondering if we could put it in the side 
bar? Maybe above the "Logged in as..." info?

Here's the code:











Thanks,
Marlene


From jeff at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun  9 19:08:03 2002
From: jeff at members.evolt.org (.jeff)
Date: Sun Jun  9 19:08:03 2002
Subject: [thesite] FAQ articles on home page?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

marlene,

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> From: Marlene Bruce
>
> I was wondering why FAQ articles, or my donate one in
> particular, aren't showing up on the evolt.org home
> page. Is this usual?
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

yes, faq is a meta category and therefore doesn't show up on the homepage,
just like jobs and suggestions.

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> Can we get my article on the home page? We won't get
> many donations with it appearing silently under FAQ
> alone.
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

agreed.  move it to news until it drops off the homepage and then move it
back to faq.

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> Also, Hugh gave me the code for adding a PayPal button
> on any page (thanks Hugh!), and I was wondering if we
> could put it in the side bar? Maybe above the "Logged
> in as..." info?
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

ugh, more in the sidebar?

done on teo.  lemme know if that looks right.

http://test.evolt.org/

thanks,

.jeff

http://evolt.org/
jeff at members.evolt.org
http://members.evolt.org/jeff/




From isaac at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun  9 19:44:01 2002
From: isaac at members.evolt.org (isaac)
Date: Sun Jun  9 19:44:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] FAQ articles on home page?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> ugh, more in the sidebar?
> done on teo.  lemme know if that looks right.
> http://test.evolt.org/

Shouldn't the emphasis be more on "donating to support evolt.org" rather
than assisting with PayPal's branding?

I'll send an image offlist soon.


isaac

--------------------------------------------------------------
triple zero digital | upstairs at 200 the parade, norwood 5067
(08)83320545 | www.triplezero.com.au | isaac at triplezero.com.au



From hblair at hotfootmail.com  Sun Jun  9 19:52:00 2002
From: hblair at hotfootmail.com (Hugh Blair)
Date: Sun Jun  9 19:52:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] FAQ articles on home page?
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

> -----Original Message-----
> On Behalf Of isaac
> 
> Shouldn't the emphasis be more on "donating to support evolt.org" rather
> than assisting with PayPal's branding?

+1

> I'll send an image offlist soon.

Which will make it better. Thanks.

-- 
    Hugh



From marlene at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun  9 20:01:04 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Sun Jun  9 20:01:04 2002
Subject: [thesite] FAQ articles on home page?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

Hi Isaac,

>Shouldn't the emphasis be more on "donating to support evolt.org" rather
>than assisting with PayPal's branding?
>
>I'll send an image offlist soon.

Grand. Maybe the text message around the image should say:

"Please give to help support evolt.org" or some such. Donate is 
actually not the best word (it's just what was already in the PayPal 
image). "Give" and "support" are preferred.

Perhaps we *shouldn't* link to PayPal from your image. We should 
probably link to my article instead, so people know there are various 
ways to help.

Sorry to change now. Like Hugh, I seem to have too much I'm keeping 
up with at the moment (and I need to get focused back on work 
tomorrow!).

Thanks Isaac.

Marlene

P.S. Jeff said:

>ugh, more in the sidebar?

Yeah, I know...


From roselli at earthlink.net  Sun Jun  9 20:34:00 2002
From: roselli at earthlink.net (aardvark)
Date: Sun Jun  9 20:34:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] FAQ articles on home page?
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: <3D03C935.22578.A9790212@localhost>

> From: "isaac" 
> 
> > ugh, more in the sidebar?
> > done on teo.  lemme know if that looks right.
> > http://test.evolt.org/
> 
> Shouldn't the emphasis be more on "donating to support evolt.org"
> rather than assisting with PayPal's branding?

+1

-- 
Read the evolt.org case study
Usability: The Site Speaks for Itself
http://amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1904151035/evoltorg
ISBN: 1904151035




From rwd at csi1st.net  Sun Jun  9 20:44:00 2002
From: rwd at csi1st.net (Ron Dorman)
Date: Sun Jun  9 20:44:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] FAQ articles on home page?
References:  <3D03C935.22578.A9790212@localhost>
Message-ID: <3D04049A.3070505@csi1st.net>

aardvark wrote:

>>From: "isaac" 
>>
>>>ugh, more in the sidebar?
>>>done on teo.  lemme know if that looks right.
>>>http://test.evolt.org/
>>>
>>Shouldn't the emphasis be more on "donating to support evolt.org"
>>rather than assisting with PayPal's branding?
>>
>
>+1
>
+ several more.  looking forward to your image isaac.

Ron D.

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From isaac at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun  9 20:47:00 2002
From: isaac at members.evolt.org (isaac)
Date: Sun Jun  9 20:47:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] FAQ articles on home page?
In-Reply-To: <3D04049A.3070505@csi1st.net>
Message-ID: 


> looking forward to your image isaac.

don't. it was a 5 second job. i prefer the idea of linking it through to
marlene's more general page anyway, so it'll probably need to be changed.


i



From rwd at csi1st.net  Sun Jun  9 21:33:01 2002
From: rwd at csi1st.net (Ron Dorman)
Date: Sun Jun  9 21:33:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] FAQ articles on home page?
References: 
Message-ID: <3D041007.4060109@csi1st.net>

isaac wrote:

>
>>looking forward to your image isaac.
>>
>
>don't. it was a 5 second job. i prefer the idea of linking it through to
>marlene's more general page anyway, so it'll probably need to be changed.
>
I agree on linking to marlene's page for full expalination, but any 
image other than PayPal branding will be an improvement.

Ron D.
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From amccoy at goodmanct.com  Mon Jun 10 08:58:00 2002
From: amccoy at goodmanct.com (McCoy, Alan)
Date: Mon Jun 10 08:58:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] dev reps
Message-ID: <6EA277CAA880A349870428C3AE42B33622F2DC@admin.admin.goodmanct.com>

:: Going to Ireland tomorrow though; back on the 20th -- talk 
:: to you then??
:: 
:: best,
:: Miriam

Great! Bring me back a box of Barry's!! :-)

Alan


From amccoy at goodmanct.com  Mon Jun 10 08:59:00 2002
From: amccoy at goodmanct.com (McCoy, Alan)
Date: Mon Jun 10 08:59:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] FAQ articles on home page?
Message-ID: <6EA277CAA880A349870428C3AE42B33622F2DD@admin.admin.goodmanct.com>

:: > > ugh, more in the sidebar?
:: > > done on teo.  lemme know if that looks right.
:: > > http://test.evolt.org/
:: > 
:: > Shouldn't the emphasis be more on "donating to support evolt.org"
:: > rather than assisting with PayPal's branding?

+1 While donating to evolt is a major focus, IMO, I really think the
graphic is a bit dominating. Maybe a compromise lies in a smaller
graphic with a little descriptive "sales" text.

Alan


From jeff at members.evolt.org  Wed Jun 12 21:52:01 2002
From: jeff at members.evolt.org (.jeff)
Date: Wed Jun 12 21:52:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] Participating in Design & Development of evolt.org offerings
Message-ID: 

howdy,

just a quick note to the members of this list.  due to the sheer number of
subscribers on this list and the fact that it's historical mission has been
to also offer a place for people to get help with the evolt.org open source
cms, it has been decided that rather than pollute this list further with
action-oriented discussion as outlined in our current restructuring, it'd be
better to create a new list specifically for that task.

the new list is called desdev (for design/development).  for those
interested in participating (lurking is not participating), please subscribe
to the new list.  i'll leave subscriptions to this new list open until the
close of friday (gmt -8).  after that time list subscriptions will be closed
and will require approval from the administrator of the list.

http://lists.evolt.org/mailman/listinfo/desdev/

this list's purpose will be refocused once the group on the new list gets
started.  this list will become the place to discuss any questions regarding
the open source cms.

thanks,

.jeff

http://evolt.org/
jeff at members.evolt.org
http://members.evolt.org/jeff/




From dmah at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun 13 14:06:03 2002
From: dmah at members.evolt.org (Dean Mah)
Date: Thu Jun 13 14:06:03 2002
Subject: [thesite] search users broken
In-Reply-To: <"from marlene"@digitizethis.com>
References: 
Message-ID: <20020613130504.A2252@alice.cg.shawcable.net>

Perhaps this is already fixed?  I wasn't able to reproduce the
problem.

Dean


On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:58:29PM -0700, Marlene Bruce wrote:
> Hey folks,
> 
> Search users is broken on w.e.o.
> 
> It seems when you search on a name you just get a "find users" search 
> page as a result.
> 
> Can someone fix?


From marlene at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun 13 17:17:01 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Thu Jun 13 17:17:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] search users broken
In-Reply-To: <20020613130504.A2252@alice.cg.shawcable.net>
References: 
 <20020613130504.A2252@alice.cg.shawcable.net>
Message-ID: 

Sorry, I should have been clearer.

When you type in my name--Marlene Bruce--I think you'll see what I 
mean. Maybe it's not exactly broken (searching "marlene" works), but 
it doesn't return a result on first and last name combinations. Given 
that it's for searching users by name, that kinda says broken to me.

Thanks,
Marlene

>Perhaps this is already fixed?  I wasn't able to reproduce the
>problem.
>
>Dean
>
>
>On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:58:29PM -0700, Marlene Bruce wrote:
>>  Hey folks,
>>
>>  Search users is broken on w.e.o.
>>
>>  It seems when you search on a name you just get a "find users" search
>>  page as a result.
>>
>  > Can someone fix?


From dmah at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun 13 17:28:01 2002
From: dmah at members.evolt.org (Dean Mah)
Date: Thu Jun 13 17:28:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] search users broken
In-Reply-To: <"from marlene"@members.evolt.org>
References: 
 <20020613130504.A2252@alice.cg.shawcable.net>
 
Message-ID: <20020613162642.A4714@alice.cg.shawcable.net>

Ah, okay.  That's something different then.  I haven't looked at the
code but I would guess that it is searching the database fields
firstname, lastname, and username for the given search phrase.  You're
asking for a combination of two fields and I don't think that it will
do that.  The page reads: "You may search for users by first name,
last name, or username" individually but not a combination of those.  :)

So I'm not sure that's a bug.  Perhaps a scope change.  The code would
need to search the concatenation firstname and lastname fields for
your string as well.

Dean


On Thu, Jun 13, 2002 at 03:16:21PM -0700, Marlene Bruce wrote:
> Sorry, I should have been clearer.
> 
> When you type in my name--Marlene Bruce--I think you'll see what I 
> mean. Maybe it's not exactly broken (searching "marlene" works), but 
> it doesn't return a result on first and last name combinations. Given 
> that it's for searching users by name, that kinda says broken to me.
> 
> Thanks,
> Marlene
> 
> >Perhaps this is already fixed?  I wasn't able to reproduce the
> >problem.
> >
> >Dean
> >
> >
> >On Thu, Jun 06, 2002 at 09:58:29PM -0700, Marlene Bruce wrote:
> >>  Hey folks,
> >>
> >>  Search users is broken on w.e.o.
> >>
> >>  It seems when you search on a name you just get a "find users" search
> >>  page as a result.
> >>
> >  > Can someone fix?


From jeff at members.evolt.org  Thu Jun 13 17:31:01 2002
From: jeff at members.evolt.org (.jeff)
Date: Thu Jun 13 17:31:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] search users broken
In-Reply-To: 
Message-ID: 

marlene,

><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><
> From: Marlene Bruce
> 
> When you type in my name--Marlene Bruce--I think you'll
> see what I mean. Maybe it's not exactly broken
> (searching "marlene" works), but it doesn't return a
> result on first and last name combinations. Given that
> it's for searching users by name, that kinda says broken
> to me.
><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><><

fixed on teo.

tested.

rolled up to weo.

done.

.jeff

http://evolt.org/
jeff at members.evolt.org
http://members.evolt.org/jeff/




From marlene at members.evolt.org  Fri Jun 14 13:53:00 2002
From: marlene at members.evolt.org (Marlene Bruce)
Date: Fri Jun 14 13:53:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] search users broken
In-Reply-To: 
References: 
Message-ID: 

>fixed on teo.
>
>tested.
>
>rolled up to weo.
>
>done.
>
>.jeff


Wow!

Thanks.

Marlene


From luminosity at members.evolt.org  Mon Jun 17 21:40:01 2002
From: luminosity at members.evolt.org (Lachlan Cannon)
Date: Mon Jun 17 21:40:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] meo webmail. help.
Message-ID: <1045.139.130.216.191.1024367970.squirrel@members.evolt.org>

I just logged in to meo webmail today and all my preferences have vanished,
which is strange because my folders are still there, but nothing else. When
I try to set my preferences back, one or two of them work, and the rest
refuse to change (including message filtering which I really need). Anyone
have any idea whatsoever whats going wrong?

Lach
_____________________________________
http://members.evolt.org/luminosity/
MSN: luminosity @ members.evolt.org
_____________________________________




From luminosity at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun 30 03:27:01 2002
From: luminosity at members.evolt.org (Lachlan Cannon)
Date: Sun Jun 30 03:27:01 2002
Subject: [thesite] Squirrlemail probs
Message-ID: <1051.139.130.216.191.1025425596.squirrel@members.evolt.org>

Since the upgrade I've been getting many multiple copies of every e-mail,
and nothing will delete. At all. OTOH, it's fixed the other problems I
had. Is this something to contact the squirrelmail developers with?

Lach
_____________________________________
http://members.evolt.org/luminosity/
MSN: luminosity @ members.evolt.org
_____________________________________




From dmah at members.evolt.org  Sun Jun 30 14:52:00 2002
From: dmah at members.evolt.org (Dean Mah)
Date: Sun Jun 30 14:52:00 2002
Subject: [thesite] Squirrlemail probs
In-Reply-To: <"from luminosity"@members.evolt.org>
References: <1051.139.130.216.191.1025425596.squirrel@members.evolt.org>
Message-ID: <20020630134659.A1219@alice.cg.shawcable.net>

I'm not encountering the problems that you describe.  What browser are
you using?  I tried with Mozilla 1.0 under W2K.  You may also want to
try to clear your cache.  Does the problem happen consistently?

Dean


On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 06:26:36PM +1000, Lachlan Cannon wrote:

> Since the upgrade I've been getting many multiple copies of every
> e-mail, and nothing will delete. At all. OTOH, it's fixed the other
> problems I had. Is this something to contact the squirrelmail
> developers with?