rite, im not going back into this debate AGAIN!!! it works in mozilla on NT - thats a bonus - i happen to like mozilla and even though im not required to program for it i do like to make sure it works in mozilla - but thats my personal choice - the company i work for has a spec - its the line - anything past the line - (a small percentage - microscopic if the truth be told) are just gonna have to deal with it. If im asked to program for opera, il program for opera, thats it. as far as i can see there noubt wrong with the code, be my guest if you want to find the problem, its pretty simple nested tables with iframe in Ie and scrollable layers in Ns (which at a guess is probably whats messing up opera - the scrollable layers - somehow). if you can see the problem let me know, and if its straight forward il sort it for you, but im not going to waste my time and i don't think the company i work for would be too chuffed either. Rite, you've had your say, ive had mine - thats it, no more...please!!!! i just work for a compay thats given me a spec - not my fault or problem. cheers paul -----Original Message----- From: thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-admin at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Simon Coggins Sent: 07 November 2001 10:59 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: [thelist] Site Check Paul, >> url: http://www.2cs.com/tradebridge >> I get a spotless white page in Opera 5.12/Win98... > dont really give a monkeys about opera..sorry I think that's a pretty poor attitude, for a couple of reasons: 1. Why completely stop a (albeit small) section of your audience from viewing your site for no reason? I'm willing to bet there is nothing fundamentally wrong. To just not bother to investigate seems like laziness when you can download Opera for free and check for your self. 2. Often problems one a particular browser are a result of real problems in the code. Just because some browsers are forgiving doesn't mean they all are (or will be). Getting it right now will help ensure your designs won't break in future browser releases. Have you tried validating your code? Maybe the problem isn't with Opera at all... Simon --------------------------------------- For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archive of TheList go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !