[thelist] Alternatives to Frames? (was: Jumping In With Both Feet, Part 2

Rebecca Milot-Bradford RMilot-Bradford at nsca-lift.org
Thu Dec 13 14:45:35 CST 2001


> As I mentioned in my original post, the Navigation is
> a *Flash movie*, so while I'll certainly take your
> advice under advisement for other elements of my site,
> it doesn't help in this particular instance.

Whoops, sorry. I didn't catch that.

> At the risk of opening up a can of worms, I'd be
> interested to hear opinions on the use of frames in a
> website, 

One thing to keep in mind is that if you put all of your navigation in one
frame and your content in another frame, then if someone follows a search
engine link to a page of content, they have NO IDEA how to find the rest of
the site. 


> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chad Savage [mailto:jg3_savage at yahoo.com]
> Sent: Thursday, December 13, 2001 1:37 PM
> To: thelist at lists.evolt.org
> Subject: [thelist] Alternatives to Frames? (was: Jumping In With Both
> Feet, Part 2
> 
> 
> 
> --- Rebecca Milot-Bradford
> <RMilot-Bradford at nsca-lift.org> wrote:
> > > 
> > > The only way I know of to avoid this is through a
> > > frameset.
> > 
> > Or you could use style sheets to place the include
> > on the page. For
> > instance, put <div class="navigation"> in the
> > include file. Then use the
> > style sheet to position .navigation on the page.
> 
> 
> --- rudy <r937 at interlog.com> wrote:
> > > What I mean is, I want to have the nav stay in
> > place
> > > once the site is open. Having it on each page,
> > regardless
> > > of how I decide to put it there, means it will
> > 'start over'
> > > every time a user clicks through to another page.
> > 
> > hi chad
> > 
> > one way to deal with this is to ensure the nav bar
> > is very "light" by
> > eliminating...
> 
> *snip*
> 
> The Gods of Clear Communication must be angry with me.
> 
> As I mentioned in my original post, the Navigation is
> a *Flash movie*, so while I'll certainly take your
> advice under advisement for other elements of my site,
> it doesn't help in this particular instance.
> 
> Take a look at http://www.sinistervisions.com -- when
> you click through from page to page, the navigation
> reloads (from the cache) each time, which is very
> disruptive to the overall experience.
> 
> To: List -
> 
> It's been a while since I thought about frames or the
> pros or cons; So long, in fact, that I've forgotten
> what The Big Objection is to them?
> 
> What's the thinking regarding the use of iFrames?
> 
> At the risk of opening up a can of worms, I'd be
> interested to hear opinions on the use of frames in a
> website, while keeping the following in mind:
> 
> 1] Yes, they can be horribly misused. I don't need
> anybody to tell me that - if I use them, it will only
> be as much as necessary, and I'll be referring to the
> W3C for proper implementation.
> 
> 2] If you don't like them just because you don't like
> them... well, great, but that doesn't tell me
> anything, so don't bother saying so unless you have
> reasons I (or anybody besides you) might care about.
> 
> Soo... whaddya think?
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> Chad
> 
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