Matt, I think IE is getting confused by the fact that you've named your variables the same thing as your HTML elements. http://easylistbox.com/wardenScript.html is a working version with just a few alterations. Cheers, Peter -----Original Message----- From: javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu [mailto:javascript-bounces at LaTech.edu] On Behalf Of Matt Warden On Sat, 04 Sep 2004 07:58:42 -0700, Hassan Schroeder <hassan at webtuitive.com> wrote: > Do you have the relevant parts in try/catch blocks? No, I'm not. I use them in Java, but I was unaware they were available in Javascript. > Or perhaps you > can give us a URL to look at? Sure. I set up an example of the script, counting down to New Years Day 2005: http://mwarden.f2o.org/countdown_test.php This one does not seem to exhibit the "osec has no properties" error. However, it still does not work in IE/Win (not sure about IE/Mac). Thanks for any help you can provide. -- Matt Warden Miami University Oxford, OH http://mattwarden.com