[Javascript] no JS on a JS mailing list? (was: Code optimization)

Lee Underwood leeu at cfl.rr.com
Tue Aug 8 12:38:38 CDT 2006


Let's not get petty. I hate that. (My programs better than yours ...)

I used Eudora and it's not broken. Eudora is used by millions of 
people. Nobody writes virus' for it like they do Outlook. Why not we 
keep focused on JavaScript and not call names. Perhaps looking for a 
solution rather than calling someone's e-mail client broken would be 
much better.

Just my two cents....

Lee



On 8/8/2006 12:47 PM, Scott Reynen wrote:
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>On Aug 8, 2006, at 10:58 AM, Paul Novitski wrote:
>
>>I suspect that the occasions my email client (Eudora 7) renders
>>posted HTML markup text as "active" HTML instead of plain text are
>>when folks include the HTML tag itself as part of their posting,
>>such as when they paste the entire HTML page into their email.
>>Because email clients that are capable of rendering HTML markup use
>>the HTML tag to begin a message, this causes obvious confusion.
>
>Only broken email clients treat the HTML tag as the beginning of the
>HTML portion of a message.  Non-broken email clients follow the
>"Content-type" header, and treat emails marked with "Content-Type:
>text/plain" as plain text regardless of which HTML tags show up in
>the content.  I'm surprised to hear that Eudora is broken like this,
>but if it's really rendering content in an email marked with 
>"Content- Type: text/plain," I see no other conclusion.
>
>>(Do set me straight here.  I'm hardly an expert in email technology
>>and my parochial experience with Eudora might be limiting my view.
>>Do other email clients consistently treat HTML markup insertions as
>>plain text?  Does their doing so depend on whether the author has
>>set it to send all email as HTML?  Did your own client treat Terry
>>Riegel's posting of Mon, 7 Aug 2006 18:05:01 -0400 entirely as
>>plain text?)
>
>Yes, mine did.  That's what "Content-Type: text/plain" means.  Eudora
>apparently thinks it means something different.  That's Eudora's
>problem, not Terry's.
>
>>In my experience, most times this happens is when someone attempts
>>to insert an example in their posting that includes what I'm
>>calling active javascript -- not just the plain text code but the
>>code embedded in an HTML context in the hopes that it will execute
>>in the email client.
>
>Terry didn't suggest an HTML context.  Your email client assumed HTML
>context despite clear suggestion to the contrary.  JavaScript
>security isn't an issue with plain text email.  It sounds like Eudora
>is creating a security issue by ignoring the "Content-type" header.
>I guess you should be thankful that Eudora is trying to protect you
>from its own flaws, but I'd think fixing those flaws would be a
>preferable solution to asking everyone else to work around them.
>
>Peace,
>Scott
>
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