Bob, IE 5.5 on Win 98 SE, browsing window not full screen. The picture of the kid and donkey is under the globe logo, and first couple letters of each line of main text is obscured by the navigation buttons. =( http://www.evolt.org/article/The_Wrong_Way_to_Use_CSS_in_Page_Layouts/20/225 47/index.html HTH, Sean G. -----Original Message----- I'm re-developing a site right now that I had done last year. This is mostly for my own learning experience with coding (CSS in particular) If you wouldn't mind looking at the two of these sites and let me know what you think, it would be greatly appreciated. Everything is being done in Ultradev 4 / Fireworks 4 on WINNT 4.0 PC at 800 x 600 res. and the site is meant to cater to the older generation of 60 - 80 years old.