I think that using PayPal on websites has gotten way more mainstream and reliable, so I don't think it would be a deterrent to buying on your site, esp for non technical people. Did you look in to authorize.net? Besides the fact that the subscription set up is COMPLETELY different than the one time payment set up (ie the credit card expiration date is 2009-01 on one of them and 0109 on the other, go figure!), it was pretty easy to use. You can google and find classes so you don't have to reinvent the wheel. So it looks like you are doing it yourself. Nan -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org] On Behalf Of Matt McKeon Sent: Wednesday, January 14, 2009 2:26 PM To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: Re: [thelist] Payment offsite or on site? Joel D Canfield wrote: >> What are your opinions about the off-site approach these days? Think >> users care? >> > > which users? you have to know who they are before you can know what > they think I'd definitely agree with what Joel said, you have to take a good look at the target audience. For instance, my first thoughts when visiting a new site are influenced with the quality of presentation. If a site looks shady, I'm certainly not going to give up my credit card info, but I *might* if the option of using PayPal exists because I can trust them. On the other hand, if its an established brand/website, then I might be curious to why they are using PayPal. For instance, it would seem odd to me to buy a book from O'Reilly using PayPal on their site. Just some really quick thoughts, HTH -Matt -- * * Please support the community that supports you. * * http://evolt.org/help_support_evolt/ For unsubscribe and other options, including the Tip Harvester and archives of thelist go to: http://lists.evolt.org Workers of the Web, evolt !