[thelist] Higher Screen Resolutions

David david at deadpansincerity.com
Fri May 21 07:16:40 CDT 2010


>> > I am misinterpreting your novella

You are misquoting my friendly trolling. :)

>> Gleaned this from a
>> 'eyes from screen distance' Google just now if you're interested (common
>> recommendations and practice unanimous AFAIK)
>> http://www.office-ergo.com/setting.htm

According to them 50 degrees below horizontal eye level is a reasonable
placement for your monitor. I am correspondingly highly dubious of any other
conclusions :)

Especially the studies of monitor interaction conducted in 1975. Presumably
they had an iMac in the control group.

Also:

"With the monitor off, look at your reflection in the screen. Now turn the
monitor on and select a Windows-type background, (black letters on a white
background). Notice that you cannot see your reflection as well."
YMMV

>> I was implicitly positing that we should not depend so much on usage
survey
>> statistics to govern fundamental principles in web design,

This is the interesting thing about the thread - Great things about the web
#347: You have access to data that you can feed back into your application
in order to improve the experience. How you go about intelligently
interpreting that without split-testing 57 shades of blue is something that
AFAICT is rarely discussed && has little in the way of consensus.

Love regards etc

David Miller
0771 744 8361
www.deadpansincerity.com


On 21 May 2010 12:36, Barney Carroll <barney.carroll at gmail.com> wrote:

> David wrote:
>
> > I am misinterpreting your novella
>
>
> To expound that far and still leave things unclear, my greatest sin :)
>
>
> > you can't call _one_ thing a false dichotomy.
>
>
> There is the crucial exception: dichotomies ;) I was referring to
>
> pixel-versus-em-as-a-method-of-achieving-meaningful-relative-sizes-in-web-layout-design,
> an age-old web design dichotomy implicit in Felix's angle. I was stating my
> preference for pixels as a necessary base unit for screen representation,
> and explaining the lack of any real relationship between either, and any
> conception of actual metric size outside of ppi conventions in screen
> manufacture.
>
>
> > Where are your data?
>
>
> I was implicitly positing that we should not depend so much on usage survey
> statistics to govern fundamental principles in web design, and stick to
> conventional more readily available conventional wisdom and design sense
> for
> notions as basic as this. TBH I haven't examined any statistical data
> sources to compound my observations of everyday HCI… Gleaned this from a
> 'eyes from screen distance' Google just now if you're interested (common
> recommendations and practice unanimous AFAIK)
> http://www.office-ergo.com/setting.htm
>
> px vs em is the web designers version of editor wars.
>
> Pick one and make something great with it.
>
>
> There are technical end-user ramifications, but generally I agree. Refer
> back to lengthy treatise on false dichotomy of ostensibly meaningful
> spatial
> representation, and greater context of ideal size ;)
>
>
> Regards,
> Barney Carroll
>
> barney.carroll at gmail.com
> 07594 506 381
>
>
> On 21 May 2010 12:07, David <david at deadpansincerity.com> wrote:
>
> > >
> > > I have personally stopped using ems for quite some time now,
> > > ...snip...
> > > In short I think they're a bit of a false dichotomy
> > >
> >
> > Unless I am misinterpreting your novella, you can't call _one_ thing a
> > false
> > dichotomy. Especially in the context of explaining your preference for an
> > alternative choice.
> >
> > their screen will be somewhere in the vicinity of 25 inches away from
> their
> > > eyes
> >
> > Where are your data?
> >
> > px vs em is the web designers version of editor wars.
> > Pick one and make something great with it.
> >
> > Love regards etc
> >
> > David Miller
> > 0771 744 8361
> > www.deadpansincerity.com
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