Was there ever an "ideal" version of addEvent to come out of the recoding contest? From what I've read, the following three compete for the latest-and-greatest: http://therealcrisp.xs4all.nl/upload/addEvent_dean.html ? http://p2b.jp/demos/IE-memory-leak2-en.html ? I'm currently using http://www.dustindiaz.com/rock-solid-addevent/ And... function myHandler(e) { // is this necessary with the above methods??? e = e || window.event; // if I don't need the event object, do I need to include e at all? } Steve -- http://mrclay.org/