[thelist] Paragraphs within lists

martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com
Thu Nov 16 10:28:08 CST 2000

Memo from Martin P Burns of PricewaterhouseCoopers

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>have i told you how much i hate your mail client?
Yes you have - and I agree. I thought Outlook sucked until I used Lotus Notes
(4.5 for all you sports fans out there). I'm hand-quoting with >s here btw

>a <p> is a block level container, just as a <blockquote>... i don't
>know about you, but i don't nest <p>s within <blockquote>s, it
>doesn't make sense to me to say to the browser "this is a quote,
>but it's got normal paragraphs in it"... <p> is quite generic,

Not when you use it structurally, to denote actual paragraphs. We're
all too used to it being used as just a generic block-level tag.

Thus an extended quote with paras in makes *perfect* sense. But
you're right, general tags in a specific tags don't make sense. But
in that sense, <p> is more specific than <blockquote>

>you may recall that i will always avoid using a <div> or a <span> if
>there is a better structural tag...

Agreed. Designers who do <p><span class="blah">stuff</span></p>
get a good kicking from me (especially as it can screw the last line
of a para if the class has differing sizing/leading to the definition of

>am i making any sense here?
Some *grin*


> From: <martin.p.burns at uk.pwcglobal.com>
> That's annoying, as the paragraphs within each definition are real, structural
> paragraphs,
> not just presentational ones. I'm trying to get the clients to move in the
> structural HTML direction.
> If you can have sub-lists within list items, why not other block level tags?

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