Hi Chris I'm not familiar with PHP but visdata was an application that would allow the user to open a database application, view the tables, edit data, create tables etc. AS for VB you will need the runtime libraries but I believe they are freely available. Hope that explains it. -----Original Message----- From: thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org [mailto:thelist-bounces at lists.evolt.org]On Behalf Of Chris W. Parker Sent: 16 July 2003 22:34 To: thelist at lists.evolt.org Subject: RE: [thelist] view access db without Access? Mark Anderson <mailto:marke.anderson at btinternet.com> on Wednesday, July 16, 2003 1:59 PM said: > In VB4 and 5 I think there was a demo application called "visdata" it > allowed you access to Access databases and allowed tables to be built > etc, I don't know what versions of access it will support I guess it > will be down to the ado drivers etc built in! Have a look on the > Microsoft site for it! Hmm.. I'm not familiar with VB so does windows have support built in already to use this? I mean, I don't have Visual Basic the "program" installed. Or maybe this is meant to be run through the server? Btw i'm using IIS5. Chris.