Steve Lewis wrote: > What does log4j have to do with IDEs or debugging? log4j is not an IDE. No kidding?! Thank you, Mr. Dictionary :-) The point was that using an IDE to set "breakpoints" is something I couldn't help with, because I don't use Sun One Studio or any other IDE. OTOH, I'm not alone (cited: Kernighan and Pike) in thinking that an effectively used logging tool like log4j is a better approach to debugging. And I think this is *especially* true for a Web app environment, where a process-triggering event is an HTTP request. It also facilitates debugging "in the wild" -- after an application has been deployed, and develops a problem that can't be duplicated in the lab. YMMV! -- Hassan Schroeder ----------------------------- hassan at webtuitive.com Webtuitive Design === (+1) 408-938-0567 === http://webtuitive.com dream. code.