[thechat] King Preaches Abstinence to Parading Maidens

[Tara Cleveland]

Heironymous Bosch wrote:

> Oh my goodness.  Keep your legs closed, for Pete's sake.  Don't want kids?
> Don't have sex.  People have known this for __millenia__.  When the woman
> allows the man in, she takes the consequences.  Sure, the man can run away
> later, and the woman is stuck with the child, but whose fault is that?
> Seems to me she did not make a very wise choice in whom to copulate with.

Of course, this *always* applies to women. Don't want to have kids, don't
have sex - for men it's don't want to have kids, then abandon them... Women
*can* run away from kids too.

But it's always the woman's responsibility to choose correctly.

<aside> How on Earth do you really know if someone's going to stay around
when presented with a red, screaming creature that needs to be taken care of
for all of their basic bodily functions? </aside>

It's always the woman's responsibility to keep her legs shut... It's not the
man's responsibility to keep his legs shut if he doesn't want the
responsibility. Women aren't allowed to be ruled by their bodies and sex
drive in the same way men are, because men have always been allowed to run
away from their responsibilities.

Okay, I know that that is also a huge over generalisation. And it is getting
much easier for a woman to try and force a man to support his children. But
I think that the same basic attitude is still there, hiding in the corner,
afraid to come out and speak it's name. It's the woman's responsibility to
clean up the mess that both people made, because biologically (pregnancy,
breast feeding etc.) it is much easier for a man to run away.

Yah, yah, you can all yell at me now,

Tara