[thechat] Gee, that time again...

Martin Burns martin at easyweb.co.uk
Fri Dec 6 03:34:00 CST 2002

On Fri, 6 Dec 2002, Jonathon Isaac Swiderski wrote:

> Today, the cows mooved Lauri Vain to write:
> > A way bit out of the topic -- the Catholic Church "made" Christmas and
> > set it to the 25th of December to leave a pagan holiday (celebrated all
> > over Europe), which was very near to that date, into the shadow. Anybody
> > knows what that holiday was about -- just curious (the church apparently
> > made a good marketing decision).
> The holiday was Saturnalia, organised round the Solstice (21 Dec., give or
> take, on the modern calendar).

(for those in Roman dominated nations... for those of us up on the Celtic
fringe you're talking about Yule (aka Mean Geimhridh))

> Pretty much your basic pagan party, this
> one celebrated the death of the old year and the birth of the next.

Or rather/also a desperate hope that the dying sun will come back


"Names, once they are in common use, quickly
 become mere sounds, their etymology being
 buried, like so many of the earth's marvels,
 beneath the dust of habit." - Salman Rushdie

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