Joel noted some things about forms and middle initials, >the form only has one space for middle name. >stupid inflexible government forms Hi Joel, Well, *some* folks have been known to use fictitious middle initials to trace spam routes. If the only place you have ever used 'Joel Q.' is to get an LL Bean catalog and a few weeks later you start getting unsolicited mail for 'Joel Q.' you pretty much know they sold their list. Other folks have been known to test 'secret word' prompts for 'bad word' screens ... your mother's maiden name is WHAT??? [Trust me - it gets to be great fun when you have to validate the information on the phone with a live service rep! "No. That really is the name. We're, uh, 'Vulgarian'."] So far I've only run into one person who has used numerics. I worked with a fella who had the same name as both his father and his grandfather, and yet, he was quite embarrased when folks pronounced his name followed by that imperious "The Third!" However, the family was closely knit and he did not want to dishonor his heritage. Eventually he hit upon a plan where he started spelling his last name with a '3' smack dab in the middle of it. He claimed the '3' was silent, but if you listened very very closely .... RonL. Who will probably start abusing forms by using special characters in lieu of a middle name. <conspiratorially /> Culling the weak forms from the herd ya know.