Joel Canfield noted: >>My driving sets me apart, all on its own; don't need distinctive wheels to do it :) Ah! So that _was_ you driving the Mini! http://www.steelcitysfinest.com/MiniSkiJump.htm >>how's that '74 Deville workin' for ya, grampa? '74? Feh! Too new! Gimme a '59! Hey, at least the '59 had decent fins! MMmmmmm ... Fins! That's what your GP needs! Harley Earl would be soooooo proud! ;-P >>... my battered Kia Sportage ... only weighs a billion tons I used to rallye with an engineer who used to drive Omnis. [He was an EE not an ME, okay?] Those things were light. So if he got trapped in the freeway lane with the big puddle - he was a goner. The pig of a Celica I was driving at the time never had that problem. [It had plenty of other problems, understeering like the pig it was for example, but steady on through the puddles.] RonL.